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#21 User is offline   HeavyDluxe 

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Posted 2009-January-29, 13:52

The more I fiddle with this little gadget, the more I like it.

My only suggestion (and this holds for the rawkin' flash client as well): It'd be for learners like me to be able to focus on one hand and 'blank' out the others, a la the 'kibitz N' command in the Win client.


Thanks Fred and team for the great site and the great toys.
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Posted 2009-January-30, 13:58

I like the handviewer especially when I use a computer without a windows bbo client installed.

I have one suggestion, is it possible to put an option to remove played cards (instead of changing their color to light gray) because the played cards distract me when analyzing end positions. Thanks.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 20:57

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The instructions contain something new: details for how to add annotations to your bridge movies. This makes it possible to use the Handviewer to display presentations similar to those that appeared for many years in "The Deal of the Week".


I don't understand how to add annotations to my movies.
There is no place where I can write.
I am not an expert with computers and I can't figure out how this works.

I also tried the handviewer on BBOflash but it didn't work.
A message says: couldn't load.lin file.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 07:09

I'm using Handviewer to display hands on my blog (example).

My only complaint is that I prefer to see X and XX in the auctions, as the D and R are less noticeable as the are similar to the P. I can use 'x' or 'd' in the description but D is always the result.

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Posted 2009-February-03, 08:19

cardsharp, on Feb 3 2009, 01:09 PM, said:

I'm using Handviewer to display hands on my blog (example).

My only complaint is that I prefer to see X and XX in the auctions, as the D and R are less noticeable as the are similar to the P. I can use 'x' or 'd' in the description but D is always the result.

Paul

Great to see, Paul!

This is exactly the sort of thing that we were hoping for when we created this program. I hope the readers of your blog like the presentation.

Thanks for the suggestion regarding X and XX. Someone else mentioned this and I actually meant to change it for the most recent release, but forgot to do so.

I will make sure to get this right for the next release.

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Posted 2009-February-03, 08:40

fred, on Feb 3 2009, 02:19 PM, said:

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Great to see, Paul!

This is exactly the sort of thing that we were hoping for when we created this program. I hope the readers of your blog like the presentation.

Naturally I get the complaints first and will have to wait and see what others think.

One does not like the new look of it.

More importantly (to me), another cannot read it at work as the bridgebase.com site is blocked by the corporate firewall (Symantec). He's never been able to play bridge at work but now cannot read my blog .... apparently a near disastrous situation :)

But this is early days (hours actually). Certainly the movie aspects of handviewer are unique and this might prove to be its most useful feature.

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Posted 2009-February-03, 12:16

I tried to create and display hands with handviewer but didn't succeed.

I don't know what is an Iframe and how it works.

Actually I understand nothing to the notice.

This feature must be for people with high computer skills I guess.

And I am just a basic BBO user.

I give up.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 12:19

If you're not familiar with the details of HTML, you should probably use a web page editor that takes care of these for you. It should have menus or dialogs that allow you to create frames, where you can provide the URL pointing to handviewer as the contents of one of the panels.

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Posted 2009-February-03, 12:58

Fred/Any other brilliant people,

Any suggestions as to how best to start to show one line of play and then back up a few tricks and show an alternate line of play? Thanks.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 13:02

G_R__E_G, on Feb 3 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

Fred/Any other brilliant people,

Any suggestions as to how best to start to show one line of play and then back up a few tricks and show an alternate line of play?  Thanks.

There is no good way to do this (yet). I will get around to implement things like this, but I might have to take a break from Handviewer development soon and start to focus on my "real work" again :)

The only suggestion I can think of (not an especially good one) is to include a link, either in your own html or as html within an annotation, to load another copy of the Handviewer with different parameters.

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Posted 2009-February-03, 13:33

Is it possible to set incomplete hands, like one would have at trick 6 and have cards played to a trick?
In that case one could use an external javascript to switch back and forth.
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Posted 2009-February-03, 13:38

It is possible to set up incomplete hands and play out the cards, but I think you will need an auction so that the program knows who is on lead and what trump is.

This is not ideal. I will add better support for incomplete hands to my list of things to do.

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Posted 2009-February-03, 15:28

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There is no good way to do this (yet). I will get around to implement things like this, but I might have to take a break from Handviewer development soon and start to focus on my "real work" again.


Considering how long it took to add the functionality for annotating we'll expect this in two to three days. :lol:
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  Posted 2009-February-05, 06:11

Hi Fred and all,

The handviewer seems ideal for blogging and any web-oriented communication.
I experimented a bit and found it very suitable for some purposes:
Link to my blog "Al's bridgesite"

I found it a problem to show the play of cards in an incomplete hand. I solved to make East declarer to give South the lead. But that is not really satisfying. Is there another way to set "who is on play" in an incomplete deal?

I like the handviewer very much for posting in a blog or on my website, but I won't miss lin-files for offline teaching lessons. I like to comment bidding and play using the nt|| at||and sb|| tags.
I hope BBO will provide the users with the NetBridgeVu.exe furthermore.

Many thanks to Fred for providing us with all these great toys and tools.

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Posted 2009-February-09, 17:34

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Posted 2009-February-10, 11:31

I started whipping together a tool this morning that will help with building deals from scratch. Everything is done except for the play of the hand and annotations for both the bidding and play. It's in Excel, so it won't work if you don't have that program (there's macros).

Anyway, it's a work in progress but I thought some might be interested in having a look. Here's a link:

Hand Creator
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Posted 2009-February-10, 14:52

G_R__E_G, on Feb 10 2009, 07:31 PM, said:

I started whipping together a tool this morning that will help with building deals from scratch. Everything is done except for the play of the hand and annotations for both the bidding and play. It's in Excel, so it won't work if you don't have that program (there's macros).

Anyway, it's a work in progress but I thought some might be interested in having a look. Here's a link:

Hand Creator

Hi Greg,

great job, many thanks. This will be of great help.

Looking forwrd to try the coming releases.

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Posted 2009-February-10, 20:02

G_R__E_G, on Feb 10 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

I started whipping together a tool this morning that will help with building deals from scratch.  Everything is done except for the play of the hand and annotations for both the bidding and play.  It's in Excel, so it won't work if you don't have that program (there's macros).

Anyway, it's a work in progress but I thought some might be interested in having a look.  Here's a link:

Hand Creator

Nice work Greg! I was thinking that eventually I would have to make an authoring program that would export an appropriate Handviewer URL, but now maybe I won't have to do that :D

Thanks also to Art for helping to spread the word about Handviewer.

Handviewer development rates to be more or less on hold for the next couple of weeks as I am working hard on the implementation of Partnership Bidding (and hosting Teaching Tables) for the BBO web-client. For those of you who are curious, the development effort is going well but it is still too early to predict a release date. It looks like the web-client implementation of these things will be clearly superior to that which is available in the Windows client.

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Posted 2009-February-11, 00:44

Can any bloggers out there report any success/ failures inserting hands via iframes using:

- WordPress
- Blogger

I'm struggling with WP, but there are known iframe/ WPress issues (although there are work-arounds I read).

thanks.

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Posted 2009-February-11, 01:32

So now someone needs to code a template for BBF integrating Handviewer? :))
Trying to learn, I have many questions.
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