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Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day

#1901 User is offline   benellis58 

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Posted Yesterday, 13:08

Trick 8: I call for dummy's diamond jack, hoping to induce a cover. Sure enough, the GIBBO M.O.R.O.N. in the East plays his queen. In what universe will that be right?

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Posted Yesterday, 13:30

The GIB definition of East's double of 3H is "4+ diamonds; 1+ heart"; 13+ HCP; 13- total points".

I see no reason why he has to have at least one heart.

He doesn't have "13+ HCP" (which, of course literally means 13-37, since GIB is too lazy and sloppy to state an upper limit). He has a mere ten. TEN, not "13+". TEN, even though he opened the bidding with TEN and is now PROMISING at LEAST 13 and possibly MUCH more, he has no problem whatsoever making this LIE of a call with...TEN. Either have the robots follow their own GIB definitions...or CHANGE the definitions to make them accurate and honest!

And GIB once again shows its total IGNORANCE about "total" points. HCP can be less than or equal to "total" points, but they CANNOT be greater...even though this pathetic, laughable GIB definition implies the reverse.

GIB definitions stink. The GIBBO system stinks. The GIBBO robots stink.

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Posted Yesterday, 14:14

North's 2S is a PASSABLE call that could easily end the auction. However, it doesn't end the auction, because his LHO East bids 3H. North's partner South PASSES, as does West.

North, however, does not pass. Despite having last bid a PASSABLE 2S, and despite receiving NO encouragement from his partner, who PASSED over East's 3H, North now decides not to give up the ship, not to pass.

Well, okay, without looking at his hand, it's possible that it could be "right" for him to compete here for the partial.

So, does he bid 3S? No.

Well then. does he double? No.

We already know from the spoiler above that he doesn't pass, and those three actions (pass, double, and 3S) seem like the only three LOGICAL choices he could have (given his earlier PASSABLE bid of 2S), no matter WHAT his hand is. So what the Hell does he do?

He now...CUEBIDS (!!!!!) FOUR (!!!!) hearts! He earlier bid a PASSABLE 2S, but he is now FORCING to at LEAST FOUR spades...and without even looking at his hand we know for CERTAIN that he is an absolute, total I.D.I.O.T., because WHATEVER he has, his sequence of bids CANNOT make sense.

4H (the call that immediately identifies him as a certifiable lunatic) is defined as:

"1+ club". WHY must he have at least one club?

"1+ diamond". WHY must he have at least one diamond?

""5+ spades". Well, DUH, yeah, I GUESS so...since his bid of ONE spade promised at least five...and he later bid TWO spades...but thanks SO much for this information, Mr. GIB.

"10+ HCP". First of all, it's lazy and HOPELESS to write "10 PLUS" with NO upper limit, since that literally means 10-37. Second, the upper limit SHOULD be ELEVEN, because he PASSED AS DEALER (!!!) even though the robots basically open EVERY hand with 12 or more HCP. Is that too difficult to figure out and put in this typically pathetic GIB definition, this piece of total GARBAGE? And, BTW, if he has at MOST 11 HCP, then why the HELL is he CUEBIDDING at the FOUR level?

"No ace of clubs, no ace of diamonds". What the HELL???!!! Does GIB think NS are in a CUEBIDDING auction? The INSANITY increases!

"Ace of hearts". Yep, the inmates have DEFINITELY taken over this particular asylum, because GIB NOW claims that 4H is showing the ace of hearts! Not only is that crazy, stupid, and wrong, but guess what, GIB: He does NOT have the ace of hearts!

"10- total points". Utter TRASH - as it ALWAYS is when GIB mentions "total" points, because GIB knows absolutely NOTHING about "total" points - as it confirms once AGAIN in this very definition!

"Forcing". Oh. Thanks SO much for telling us, GIB. I guess otherwise we might have PASSED and tried to take TEN tricks in hearts - the suit that BOTH opponents bid!

Every single time that I read a GIB definition, I expect it to be complete and utter garbage, but THIS horror show might just be the absolutely WORST GIB definition of them all!

North's hand was KQJ85, 1096, 965, KJ. The question is not "Why did the GIBBO robot make such an INCREDIBLY stupid bid?" The question is not even "How is it possible that the GIB definition of 4H could be so STAGGERINGLY bad?" The question IS: "Why, why, WHY must the members, players, supporters, and customers of BBO continue to be plagued by the INCOMPARABLY useless, worthless, and hopeless GIBBO robots, system, and definitions? The correct places for garbage are garbage dumps, landfills, and incinerators - not an otherwise fine bridge site.

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Posted Yesterday, 14:35

East wins trick 6. Does he play a heart at trick 7? Of COURSE he doesn't, because he KNOWS that his "partner" showed a single-suiter with HEARTS. he KNOWS that his "partner" led a HEART, and he KNOWS that his "partner" has several HEARTS left behind declarer, so of COURSE East would never even dream of -leading a HEART. He of COURSE leads his losing club 6 to dummy's high club 10, because DECLARER was playing clubs, and GIBBO robots LOVE to lead WHATEVER suit DECLARER plays.

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Posted Today, 04:05

South opens 1D in fourth. North bids 1S. South bids 2NT. North bids 3C, NMF. South bids 3D.

The GIB definition of 3D is, as we would expect, INEPT: "2-4 clubs; 5- diamonds; 2-4 hearts; 2-3 spades; 18-19 HCP; rebiddable diamonds; 22- total po" (sic!). Let's do a stupidity tour of this piece of GIB trash:

If he had as many as four hearts, as the definition claims he could, would he not bid three hearts over 3C rather than three diamonds?

If he had as many as three spades, as the definition claims he could, would he not bid three spades over 3C rather than three diamonds?

(Side issue: If he had both four hearts and three spades, BTW, he should bid 3H, but the GIBBO monstrosities foolishly bid 3S, because - well, because they are fools.) Now back to our regularly scheduled stupidity tour of the pathetic GIB definition:

"Rebiddable diamonds". WHY, pray tell? Why the HELL must he have "rebiddable diamonds"? Furthermore, does this not contradict the earlier part of this execrable definition, where it (LAZILY)said "5- diamonds", which literally means zero to five diamonds?

"22- total po". Yes, it really does say "po"! I guess it would have been MUCH too difficult and MUCH too time-consuming for GIB to add the letters "ints".If GIB is SO pressed for time (and/or so lazy), here's a constructive time-saving suggestion: Don't even bother EVER mentioning "total" points, GIB, because you have NO idea about them anyway, so whenever you bring them up, people should just ignore them anyway. Do yourself a favour and save some precious time by NEVER writing about them. Maybe you could use some of that saved time to actually write entire words such as "points". MAYBE you could EVEN use some of that saved time to actually start writing DECENT, ACCURATE definitions that FULLY explain what NEEDS to be explained!

As for the EW "defence" on this hand, West actually makes the BEST lead of a heart, which declarer ducks. West correctly and intelligently then plays a second heart, overtaken by East, and South ducks again. East now...SHIFTS...to a club. WHY? Given the layout, it didn't really matter, but WHY?

GIBBO = garbage.

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Posted Today, 04:18

On the layout, a lucky 12 tricks are always available for East-West in hearts, and we got a perfectly average 50 % on the board when they bid the normal 4H and made with two overtricks.

Thus, North's lead did not cost, but it was still a stupid lead that easily COULD have cost. In fact, it DID cost, in that it gave away the whole spade suit, although that was irrelevant on THIS hand, since declarer had five club tricks and could have pitched all four of dummy's losing spades anyway (with dummy's fifth spade being taken care of by declarer's ace). On some OTHER random layout, though, giving away an entire suit easily COULD cost. Why NOT lead a diamond, our KNOWN suit? Oops - I think I answered my own question: The jerk didn't lead a diamond precisely because it WAS our suit, and these GIBBO dweebs HATE leading our suits!

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Posted Today, 05:08

As I've mentioned in the past, I often operate in games with three GIBBO robots. There are several reasons for this:

One: I know before even looking at the first hand that I will be playing "with" a "partner" who is totally hopeless at bridge.
Two: I know before even looking at the first hand that I will be playing against two opponents who are totally hopeless at bridge.
Three: If my operation works out well, great. If it fails, I have not disappointed or hurt a HUMAN partner or HUMAN teammates.
Four: If it fails, so what? Big deal. I will have "hurt" only myself, and I will not have "hurt" even myself significantly, because nothing of great importance is at stake anyway. Although I naturally always want to do well, I am playing mainly for "fun" in the robot games.
Five: Sometimes my operations go beyond being mere "operations" and could better be described as "experiments". Again, I'm playing mainly for "fun", and "experiments" that I would never do in "real" bridge with humans can be a lot of fun.
Six: As you would expect, sometimes my operations and experiments end in disaster, but more often than not, they end well...or otherwise I would obviously stop doing them.

Now, a hand:

My 3NT call is obviously not a textbook bid, but with three GIBBO robots in the game, why not give it a try? The GIB definition is typically pathetic: "5- hearts; 5- spades; 25-32 HCP; likely stop in clubs".

Among other issues that I won't even waste my time or yours on, I don't see why he needs at least 25 HCP. What he NEEDS are TRICKS and a club stopper...yet the hopeless definition only promises a "likely stop in clubs".

Furthermore, since GIB's sole criterion is HCP, why do they give such a BROAD range of EIGHT (!) points?

I passed North's quantitative 4NT for two reasons. First, I didn't really have my 3NT bid (no kidding! - ha, ha) according to their definition. Second, I knew that by definition North was an I.D.I.O.T., since he's a cursed GIBBO robot...and they are ALL the lowest of the low and the worst of the worst.

West led a club, which was quite reasonable, but he stupidly led the wrong club: the 8 from KQ98, which - ESPECIALLY on THIS auction - is insane regardless of what the actual random layout turned out to be.

Thanks to the lead, and with hearts NOT being a "BBO special" 4-0. I had an easy 10 tricks...for a score of 100 %.

Like ALL operations or experiments, this one MIGHT have ended up a zero...or 100... or anything in between, but it happened to be 100. As long as I continue scoring well more often than not on operations, I will continue doing the surgery (ha, ha). It's not all about the scores anyway. It's about having "fun", and THIS type of "fun" is something I could never experience in "real" bridge with HUMANS, because I would never perform such an operation in that milieu.

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Posted Today, 05:14

92.9 % for going down "only" one in 4S - largely thanks to North's typically stupid lead of his stiff trump, which basically gave the show away at trick one. For some reason, these GIBBO imbeciles LOVE leading a stiff trump...even though it's widely considered one of the worst leads in bridge.

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Posted Today, 05:38

Some humans bid the same way EW did here, so I won't criticize it too strongly, but I do think that it's silly to bid 2H with West's hand. If East now PASSES, he could easily be missing a game, but if he BIDS, he could be propelling them to a no-play contract, which is what happened here. I firmly believe that West should make a negative double of 1S rather than bidding 2H on his unshapely TEN-count. It's not 1957 any more - EXCEPT perhaps in the antiquated GIBBO system!

As for the "defence", although his play did not cost on THIS hand, North did not impress me. (I know: a real SHOCK - ha, ha.) At trick three, I returned the THREE of spades for North to ruff or overruff. That was the LOWEST remaining spade, so it was clearly asking for a CLUB return, but Superjerk in the North was as oblivious as the GIBBO robots almost always are, so he he stupidly returned a diamond,

Every chance these GIBBO *****s get, they further prove how pathetic they are. They rot.

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Posted Today, 05:46

One of my worst scores today was very well-deserved. I made the huge error of crediting an opposing GIBBO robot "defender" with NOT being a complete I.D.I.O.T. I played for him to have defended normally and logically...so of COURSE I was wrong, because of COURSE he had, as usual, defended like an I.D.I.O.T. and if I had played him to have done that, I would have succeeded in my contract.

I broke my OWN rule of always playing for GIBBO robots to be M.O.R.O.N.s and I paid for it, because unsurprisingly he was a M.O.R.O.N.

Mea culpa!
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Posted Today, 09:21

Why NOT operate against these repulsive GIBBO misfits when they're going to make ridiculous leads like they do here? An easy 100 %. In fairness, the killing club lead was unlikely, but his heart lead was preposterous.

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Posted Today, 09:32

Only 64.3 % here, but the reason for posting is the 3D definition: "3+ diamonds, ...queen plus in diamonds,...".

THIS is North's hand: KJ105, QJ64, 10632, K.

Funny, but I don't see "queen plus in diamonds". I see TEN-FOURTH. Now, if he chooses to bid 3D with his hand, so be it, BUT...either the robots should follow their own GIB definitions or - better yet - the definitions should be changed so that they are accurate and honest.

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Posted Today, 09:40

The GIBBO droke in the West foolishly fails to cash his club queen after his partner's good shift. Instead, Mr. Droke plays a diamond. allowing me to shed my second club loser a few tricks later.

Even though every single one of these East-West GIBBO "defenders" is a total dimwit, I have sympathy for them, because they are also cursed by having to always PLAY WITH another total dimwit. They are the worst.

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Posted Today, 09:44

My familiar refrain: Stayman would be wiser than a unilateral transfer, but the pathetic GIBBO system won't allow it. (Yes, I'm aware that some human players side with GIBBO on this issue).

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Posted Today, 10:23

For ONCE, East has a reason for his lead. It's stiff, and after I choose to duck in dummy South, they can beat my game. In fact, they can beat it TWO, via club king, club ruff, spade to ace, second club ruff, diamond ace.

But they DON'T beat it two.
They don't even beat it one.
They don't EVEN hold it to four.
They let me make FIVE...four hearts PLUS an OVERTRICK.

Why? Well I don't think that it's purely because of an error on THIS hand. I think it's because of their mind-blowingly STUPID leading philosophy for ALL hands I'll explain:

GOOD players sometimes lead doubletons, but they usually have a REASON when they do it. The repulsive GIBBO robots, on the other hand, make a HABIT out of leading doubletons, usually for no reason at all. Their childishly simple "brains" (ha ha) are incapable of intelligent thought, so they fall back on these doubleton leads as a crutch.

More importantly, GOOD players tend to AVOID leading ENEMY suits, whereas the magnificently stupid and hopeless GIBBO robots foolishly and perversely LOVE leading enemy suits, total nitwits that they are.

Now if a GOOD human player happened to be East on this hand and led the (stiff) club 5 - just as the robot did - and if West was also a GOOD human player, West would think "Gee, my partner led an ENEMY suit, clubs. That's strange. Why would he lead an enemy suit? And since it would be quite unlikely that East led the enemy suit merely because he had a DOUBLETON club (big deal!), West would likely think, "He must have led the enemy suit because he has a STIFF in it." The defence (NO quotation marks HERE, please note!) would then proceed as described above and declarer would soon be writing "down two" in his scorecard.

But these GIBBO pieces of trash are NOT good players. (I know, I know: that's not exactly NEWS!). They are garbage. So when the ROBOT West sees that his "partner" East led the ENEMY suit (clubs), HE will think, "I'm so proud of my partner for following our philosophy of leading enemy suits", and due to their propensity for SO frequently leading doubletons, he will probably think, "Good doubleton lead, partner. It ensured that we got our club trick and now I'll do MY part by shifting, so that we can also get our DIAMOND trick." When North falsecarded by playing the SIX of clubs from J962, it seemed to confirm West's suspicion that his partner had led, as he SO often does, a DOUBLETON.

So, was the EW "defence" wretched. Yes, of course it was, as it SO frequently is...but in THIS case the wretchedness was due to the (wretched) PATTERNS of their inept leads. West was behind the 8-ball from the start.

Moral: GIBBO robots stink.

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Posted Today, 11:10

6NT is a good contract and it duly made...BUT that doesn't excuse North's ridiculous LEAP to the final contract, which we would have reached anyway on a slower auction.

His 6NT was defined as "5+ hearts; 15-17 HCP; KQ of clubs". The definition itself is not very good, but that's not our focus in this post. Our focus is on the GIBBO robot's ridiculous, unscientific, undisciplined leap to 6NT - a bid that did not come CLOSE to matching his own GIB definition.

He did have five hearts, it's true, but ONLY five.
"15-17 HCP"? He had...a mere (in context) THIRTEEN (!) - two less than his "promised" MINIMUM (!) and four less than his potential maximum.
"KQ of clubs"? WHERE? I see the A1093.

And then...West led a SPADE (!) INTO the 6NT declarer, who had made a strong jump shift INTO...SPADES. It didn't matter, but still...

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Posted Today, 11:21

Typically stupid lead: jack of spades from J9 dub. Then after West wins his spade 9 at trick three, he plays a CLUB - the SAME suit DECLARER played at trick two. These imbeciles will obviously NEVER learn, so please throw them in the garbage can where they belong and replace them with DECENT robots.

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Posted Today, 11:44

This is the pathetic GIB definition of South's 2NT:

"Invitational to 3NT game". First, GIB, it is NOT necessary to mention that 3NT is "game". It is useless, annoying, and insulting. Believe it or not, BBO players already know that 3NT is game, so please stop with your garbage.

More importantly, 2NT here is most definitely NOT invitational to 3NT, as ANY decent player would know. NORTH'S sequence was invitational, so if South was interested in 3NT, HE would have BID IT! He is bidding 2NT to "escape" from 2S because he has only two spades and knows North has only four, so, maybe instead of needlessly informing people that 3NT is "game", GIB should...LEARN HOW TO BID!

I won't waste time going through the whole definition, but one other GLARINGLY stupid parts is "2-4 spades". Guess WHAT, GIB: If South had FOUR (!!!) spades (and sometimes even if he "only" had three), he would NOT bid 2NT - he would PASS 2S! But I guess that's MUCH too difficult a concept for a useless piece of garbage like GIB to understand!

The "defence" was as atrocious as you would expect from these brainless GIBBO nincompoops. Particularly amusing was West's monumentally stupid play of the diamond ACE (!!!) at trick 9. His TEN would have won the trick and he would have BEATEN the hand. Instead, his BRILLIANT "unblock" (ha, HA, HA!) established DECLARER'S king, and declarer had a CLAIM after Superstooge cashed his heart.

GIBBO robots are the WORST...the stone cold WORST. They totally rot.

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Posted Today, 12:06

Two more hands from OMARHEUM. Here's the first. He writes "So 3D is 'drop' with 0-8 points, but then North bids 4D, which is described as both 8+ and 8- points. Heart suit gets lost and either red suit slam is on a hook. This was 44% and the most common result."

My comments:

GIBBO never has ANY idea of how to bid two-suiters.
GIBBO often bids VERY stupidly when his partner opens 1NT and the opponents intervene. (Mind you, GIBBO often bids VERY stupidly in countless other situations too.)
GIBBO is often ridiculously inconsistent.
The nonsense GIBBO spews about 8+ and 8- is attributable to the fact that GIBBO lacks even an ELEMENTARY understanding of what "total" points are.
GIBBO stinks. GIBBO rots. GIBBO is the worst of the worst, the lowest of the low. GIBBO is an embarrassment to bridge.

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Posted Today, 12:18

Here's the other hand from OMAR today. He writes "94% for making 3NT. Most common contract was 4D. North did not have the claimed 11-13 points. Running clubs made West uncomfortable, producing the desired +400."

My comments:

North's bidding is okay. It's the typically pathetic GIB definitions that are atrocious, especially when the definition of 3NT says that it shows "12+ HCP". Of course, North does NOT have 12+; he has only 9, but since South's 3H was defined as "forcing to 3NT", North will OFTEN bid 3NT with less than "12+". GIB is too witless to understand that simple fact.

Good squeeze by OMAR to make his contract.

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