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Question: Why is the stinking piece of trash in the North JUMPING to FOUR hearts on his pile of cheese?
Answer: Because he's not just ANY stinking piece of trash, he's a GIBBO stinking piece of trash - the worst and most clueless of all.
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#2182
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Posted Yesterday, 22:36
Why is the GIBBO jerk in the East doubling 6C with his 75 doubleton? Why is the GIB definition of the double so compellingly useless?
Don't ask ME, because if it ever gets to the point where I actually start to "think" like a stinking piece of trash GIBBO robot, I'll immediately give up bridge forever - just like these terminally clueless GIBBO dolts should have done ages ago.
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Don't ask ME, because if it ever gets to the point where I actually start to "think" like a stinking piece of trash GIBBO robot, I'll immediately give up bridge forever - just like these terminally clueless GIBBO dolts should have done ages ago.
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Posted Yesterday, 22:53
There is a incredibly simple solution: stop playing with it! No one is forcing you to log on and play with a robot. Either adapt, stop complaining or go find a table with human players.
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
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#2184
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Posted Yesterday, 23:14
The GIBBO robots regularly BURY their "partners" by grossly overbidding, yet here the oblivious, cowardly droke in the North fails to appreciate the value of his hand - opposite a partner who ALL BY HIMSELF bid 3D and then 4C at unfavourable vulnerability opposite a heretofore SILENT North. I've seen INCHWPRMS with more intelligence than GIBBO robots. We scored 71.4 % on the board, but North was an I.D.I.O.T....like ALL GIBBO robots ALWAYS are.
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#2185
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Posted Yesterday, 23:51
I see that in post # 2183 (two positions above this one) Jillybean has made a comment that she also made almost verbatim in another interesting thread. Rather than repeat my response to her from that thread, I will simply provide a link here to the other one, and let what I stated there serve as the response here also.
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#2186
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Posted Today, 05:06
Some more ludicrous definitions in a ludicrous GIBBO system, followed by one of the stupidest bids ever:
Over North's 2C, 2NT by South would show "11-14 HCP", which is fine, but 3NT would show "13-20 HCP", which is a ridiculously broad range of EIGHT points. It's also redundant, contradictory, and inconsistent, because TWO NT (as previously indicated) shows 11-14, so why are 13 and 14 also included for 3NT? And if he had 15-17, wouldn't he have opened 1NT? And with 20, wouldn't he have opened 2NT? So instead of the mindless hogwash and ridiculous range given for a 3NT bid by South, why doesn't GIB define things this SIMPLE, NORMAL, EASY, STRAIGHTFORWARD way: Over North's 2C, 2NT by South shows 11-14. With 15-17, South would have opened 1NT and with 20 (or 21) he would have opened 2NT, so - BINGO - THREE NT over North's 2C shows 18-19. But that SIMPLE solution is obviously WAY too difficult for GIB, so we're left with their nonsensically wide, unworkable range of "13-20", which gives North NO useful information.
The closest thing to a descriptive bid by South in the reprehensible GIBBO system is (gaah!) 2S, defined by GIB as "New suit" (because of course GIB, which doesn't tell us USEFUL stuff, feels it MUST (pointlessly!) inform us that 2S is a "new suit"! After this typically pathetic beginning, the GIB definition of 2S continues "3+ diamonds; 4+ spades; 21- HCP; 16-22 total points; forcing to 3NT". As woeful as this definition is (and it is REALLY woeful, as ONLY a GIB definition can be), it is at least an accurate (if largely uninformative!) description of South's hand, so he bids 2S as the least of evils in their miserable system.
North now makes one of his favourite (and typically I.D.I.O.T.I.C.) bids by leaping FOUR levels, all the way to 6NT. This is defined by GIB as "19-21 HCP; biddable clubs". Yes, thank you, GIB: I would HOPE the clubs are biddable, since at his previous call, North...BID THEM!
South's elementary school, perhaps unlike GIB's, actually...taught arithmetic (!), so South puts that skill to use.
"Hmm," he says, "I, South, have 19 HCP myself, and my GIBBO 'partner' has just PROMISED me 19-21. If he has 21, we will have a combined partnership total of ALL 40 POINTS IN THE DECK. Even if he has the MINIMUM he PROMISED - 19 - we will have a combined total of 38 HCP. so quite OBVIOUSLY I should raise his 6NT call to 7NT."
Thus, South bids 7NT. West and North pass, and East - who will be on lead - doubles. South IMMEDIATELY thinks "That piece of GIBBO trash in the North has done it AGAIN!" South is CONFIDENT that the doubled grand will IMMEDIATELY go down because East WILL cash an ace that it is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for him to hold on this auction.
South, of course, is correct. East cashes his diamond ace and declarer then claims down one. The INCREDIBLY stupid GIBBO M.O.R.O.N. in the North has "PROMISED" 19-21 HCP despite holding ONLY (!!!) FIFTEEN - six fewer than his potential maximum, and much more importantly - a full FOUR (!!!) fewer than his "promised" MINIMUM!
No bridge player is perfect. Even the best make mistakes. But there are mistakes, and then there are MISTAKES! THIS insane GIBBO 6NT call is not just some random, run of the mill error - it is a CONSCIOUS decision to GROSSLY distort his values to his "partner" after wasting FOUR levels of bidding with his ridiculous jump. This is the KING of mistakes. AND...
not only does it obviously cause a bad result on THIS board, but it TOTALLY destroys ALL partnership trust and confidence forever. Consider: What happens if tomorrow, for example, South picks up ANOTHER hand with 19 HCP and the uninterrupted NS auction goes exactly as this one did for the first four calls: 1D by South, 2C by North, 2S by South, 6NT by North? What should South now do? He should do exactly what South did here: He should raise to 7NT, because that was and is the CORRECT bid, based on basic, simple elementary school arithmetic. But maybe South will say, "Oh no, that fleabrained GIBBO imbecile in the North is probably doing what he so stupidly did yesterday - PRETENDING to have 19-21 HCP when he actually has only 15, total jackass that he is." And maybe South will then PASS 6NT...and maybe THIS time North will actually HAVE the 19-21 points he's promising. The point is that South will NEVER know whether or not to trust the braindead GIBBO lummox, because the lummox has PROVEN that he CANNOT be trusted and that his bids are just random noise.
GIB/GIBBO is by FAR the worst "bridge player" I have EVER encountered. It is not "just" bad. It is astoundingly, breathtakingly bad, and it is a pox on bridge.
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Over North's 2C, 2NT by South would show "11-14 HCP", which is fine, but 3NT would show "13-20 HCP", which is a ridiculously broad range of EIGHT points. It's also redundant, contradictory, and inconsistent, because TWO NT (as previously indicated) shows 11-14, so why are 13 and 14 also included for 3NT? And if he had 15-17, wouldn't he have opened 1NT? And with 20, wouldn't he have opened 2NT? So instead of the mindless hogwash and ridiculous range given for a 3NT bid by South, why doesn't GIB define things this SIMPLE, NORMAL, EASY, STRAIGHTFORWARD way: Over North's 2C, 2NT by South shows 11-14. With 15-17, South would have opened 1NT and with 20 (or 21) he would have opened 2NT, so - BINGO - THREE NT over North's 2C shows 18-19. But that SIMPLE solution is obviously WAY too difficult for GIB, so we're left with their nonsensically wide, unworkable range of "13-20", which gives North NO useful information.
The closest thing to a descriptive bid by South in the reprehensible GIBBO system is (gaah!) 2S, defined by GIB as "New suit" (because of course GIB, which doesn't tell us USEFUL stuff, feels it MUST (pointlessly!) inform us that 2S is a "new suit"! After this typically pathetic beginning, the GIB definition of 2S continues "3+ diamonds; 4+ spades; 21- HCP; 16-22 total points; forcing to 3NT". As woeful as this definition is (and it is REALLY woeful, as ONLY a GIB definition can be), it is at least an accurate (if largely uninformative!) description of South's hand, so he bids 2S as the least of evils in their miserable system.
North now makes one of his favourite (and typically I.D.I.O.T.I.C.) bids by leaping FOUR levels, all the way to 6NT. This is defined by GIB as "19-21 HCP; biddable clubs". Yes, thank you, GIB: I would HOPE the clubs are biddable, since at his previous call, North...BID THEM!
South's elementary school, perhaps unlike GIB's, actually...taught arithmetic (!), so South puts that skill to use.
"Hmm," he says, "I, South, have 19 HCP myself, and my GIBBO 'partner' has just PROMISED me 19-21. If he has 21, we will have a combined partnership total of ALL 40 POINTS IN THE DECK. Even if he has the MINIMUM he PROMISED - 19 - we will have a combined total of 38 HCP. so quite OBVIOUSLY I should raise his 6NT call to 7NT."
Thus, South bids 7NT. West and North pass, and East - who will be on lead - doubles. South IMMEDIATELY thinks "That piece of GIBBO trash in the North has done it AGAIN!" South is CONFIDENT that the doubled grand will IMMEDIATELY go down because East WILL cash an ace that it is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for him to hold on this auction.
South, of course, is correct. East cashes his diamond ace and declarer then claims down one. The INCREDIBLY stupid GIBBO M.O.R.O.N. in the North has "PROMISED" 19-21 HCP despite holding ONLY (!!!) FIFTEEN - six fewer than his potential maximum, and much more importantly - a full FOUR (!!!) fewer than his "promised" MINIMUM!
No bridge player is perfect. Even the best make mistakes. But there are mistakes, and then there are MISTAKES! THIS insane GIBBO 6NT call is not just some random, run of the mill error - it is a CONSCIOUS decision to GROSSLY distort his values to his "partner" after wasting FOUR levels of bidding with his ridiculous jump. This is the KING of mistakes. AND...
not only does it obviously cause a bad result on THIS board, but it TOTALLY destroys ALL partnership trust and confidence forever. Consider: What happens if tomorrow, for example, South picks up ANOTHER hand with 19 HCP and the uninterrupted NS auction goes exactly as this one did for the first four calls: 1D by South, 2C by North, 2S by South, 6NT by North? What should South now do? He should do exactly what South did here: He should raise to 7NT, because that was and is the CORRECT bid, based on basic, simple elementary school arithmetic. But maybe South will say, "Oh no, that fleabrained GIBBO imbecile in the North is probably doing what he so stupidly did yesterday - PRETENDING to have 19-21 HCP when he actually has only 15, total jackass that he is." And maybe South will then PASS 6NT...and maybe THIS time North will actually HAVE the 19-21 points he's promising. The point is that South will NEVER know whether or not to trust the braindead GIBBO lummox, because the lummox has PROVEN that he CANNOT be trusted and that his bids are just random noise.
GIB/GIBBO is by FAR the worst "bridge player" I have EVER encountered. It is not "just" bad. It is astoundingly, breathtakingly bad, and it is a pox on bridge.
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#2187
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Posted Today, 05:34
Further proof of how hopeless the GIBBO system is:
Over North's 3H, 3S by South would NOT be a cuebid. It would be "5+ clubs; 4+ diamonds; 3+ spades;..." plus some typically vague, wide-ranging nonsense about HCP and total points. Similarly (and similarly stupidly), 4C would NOT be a cuebid. It would be "4+ hearts; twice rebiddable clubs;..." plus (again) some typically vague, wide-ranging, USELESS nonsense about HCP and total points. There should be a way to CUEBID!
HANDCUFFED by the outstandingly hopeless, inefficient GIBBO system, South bids Blackwood - quite obviously inferior to cuebidding, but in GIBBO's sick, twisted Bizarro World, South can't cuebid!
Maybe South should, as another Forum poster suggested, "stop playing with GIBBO, because no one is forcing him to log on and play with a robot." But South LIKES playing the robot games DESPITE the wretchedness of GIBBO, so he will continue playing them...like many, many other players who also have contempt for GIBBO but will continue playing because they enjoy the games anyway. However, there have been - and will continue to be - a certain number of BBO members who will say "enough is enough" and abandon BBO even though they would have stayed had the robots been better.
A prime rule of business is "Keep the customer satisfied".
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Over North's 3H, 3S by South would NOT be a cuebid. It would be "5+ clubs; 4+ diamonds; 3+ spades;..." plus some typically vague, wide-ranging nonsense about HCP and total points. Similarly (and similarly stupidly), 4C would NOT be a cuebid. It would be "4+ hearts; twice rebiddable clubs;..." plus (again) some typically vague, wide-ranging, USELESS nonsense about HCP and total points. There should be a way to CUEBID!
HANDCUFFED by the outstandingly hopeless, inefficient GIBBO system, South bids Blackwood - quite obviously inferior to cuebidding, but in GIBBO's sick, twisted Bizarro World, South can't cuebid!
Maybe South should, as another Forum poster suggested, "stop playing with GIBBO, because no one is forcing him to log on and play with a robot." But South LIKES playing the robot games DESPITE the wretchedness of GIBBO, so he will continue playing them...like many, many other players who also have contempt for GIBBO but will continue playing because they enjoy the games anyway. However, there have been - and will continue to be - a certain number of BBO members who will say "enough is enough" and abandon BBO even though they would have stayed had the robots been better.
A prime rule of business is "Keep the customer satisfied".
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#2188
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Posted Today, 05:52
Typically unprepared sequence by North, resulting in a THREE-level REVERSE (with insufficient values) that could conceivably force South with some holdings to go to the FOUR level for NO reason other than North's pitiful bidding choices. And no, I'm not complaining about the RESULT. I never, ever complain about the RESULT - I only complain about the GIBBO robots, the GIBBO system, and the GIB definitions...all in the HOPE of persuading the powers that be to either HUGELY improve them...or JUNK them and replace them with DECENT ones. That would please many, MANY BBO members, players, and paying customers...and it would benefit BBO itself most of all, as better robots would make it a better site and would result in more current members staying loyal AND more new members joining.
NS scored 100 % on this board.
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NS scored 100 % on this board.
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#2189
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Posted Today, 06:22
Hopeless 2C system, stupid jump to 6NT by the pathetic GIBBO robot in the North. We stumble into a shared top. Too tired and too disgusted to go into all the gory details.
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#2190
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Posted Today, 09:26
The newest contribution from OMARHEUM, who writes "I scored 93 % on this board when East-West typically decided to double me and defend for no good reason and with a DISMAL result...for THEM."
True, OMAR. If they wanted to compete, they would have been wiser to contract for 3S, especially since even they should be aware of how miserable they are at "defence". They should watch "Magnum Force" and take note of Clint Eastwood's line (as Harry Callahan) "A man's got to know his limitations".
But look at the bright side, OMAR. At least, via their GIB definitions, they were able to alert the world to the following three Earth-shattering pieces of vital information that probably NO ONE would EVER have been able to otherwise figure out by themselves, namely that:
1C is a "Minor-suit opening". Wow! I mean, like WOW, man, how does GIB know that? I'm SO impressed that I'm remembering John Sebastian's actions at Woodstock in 1969! Like, WOW, man! And...
1D is a "One-level overcall". TRULY informative! And SO crucial to our understanding of the bid! Thank you, thank you, THANK you, GIB, for telling us! A ONE-level overcall, you say! Truly inspirational!
1H is a "Free bid". Please, please slow down, GIB! This REALLY important and REALLY hitherto unknown information is SO very difficult for us mere humans to understand and process! How were you EVER able to figure out these SUPER complex concepts ...and then REMEMBER them, to boot? Truly, TRULY impressive, GIB! Well DONE!
Golly! The GENIUS that it took to realize even ONE of those three things! I'm sure that no mere human would ever have been aware of ANY of them without your valuable statements in those TRULY - dare I say it - beautiful and breathtaking definitions!
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True, OMAR. If they wanted to compete, they would have been wiser to contract for 3S, especially since even they should be aware of how miserable they are at "defence". They should watch "Magnum Force" and take note of Clint Eastwood's line (as Harry Callahan) "A man's got to know his limitations".
But look at the bright side, OMAR. At least, via their GIB definitions, they were able to alert the world to the following three Earth-shattering pieces of vital information that probably NO ONE would EVER have been able to otherwise figure out by themselves, namely that:
1C is a "Minor-suit opening". Wow! I mean, like WOW, man, how does GIB know that? I'm SO impressed that I'm remembering John Sebastian's actions at Woodstock in 1969! Like, WOW, man! And...
1D is a "One-level overcall". TRULY informative! And SO crucial to our understanding of the bid! Thank you, thank you, THANK you, GIB, for telling us! A ONE-level overcall, you say! Truly inspirational!
1H is a "Free bid". Please, please slow down, GIB! This REALLY important and REALLY hitherto unknown information is SO very difficult for us mere humans to understand and process! How were you EVER able to figure out these SUPER complex concepts ...and then REMEMBER them, to boot? Truly, TRULY impressive, GIB! Well DONE!
Golly! The GENIUS that it took to realize even ONE of those three things! I'm sure that no mere human would ever have been aware of ANY of them without your valuable statements in those TRULY - dare I say it - beautiful and breathtaking definitions!
https://www.bridgeba...CHQ%7Cmc%7C9%7C