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What Do You Bid Here?

Poll: What Do You Bid? (22 member(s) have cast votes)

What Do You Bid?

  1. Pass (10 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  2. 2 diamonds (11 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  3. 2 hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 2 spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 2NT (1 votes [4.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  6. Something Else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   fuburules3 

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Posted 2010-August-11, 22:28

No one vulnerable at matchpoints, you deal and hold

AQxx
Kxxx
AQ98x
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and the auction goes 1-P-1NT-P-?

Assume you are playing 2/1, what are your top three choices? How close is it for you?

As a secondary question, what do you believe the bid of 2NT by you shows here?
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Posted 2010-August-12, 01:48

Pass, your side has at most 25 points, you have terrible major spot cards, this is a misfit, and having a club void on this auction is not good.

In standard 2N shows 18-19, just reverse with this kind of hand and play partner's 2N/3C/3D are nonforcing.

I might try 2D at IMPs but this is matchpoints and so I would just pass, this kind of hand (where it's not clear what we have or if it's safe to attack clubs) is very hard to defend.
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Posted 2010-August-12, 02:17

easy 2h

we can hve much much more than other..not ..not 25 hcp..we can hVW MUCH MORE IN MY STYLE

1NT CAN BE HUGE!...ok....i grant....1nt can be HUGe

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oki lets be easy...we can have easy game here..easy

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Given in my style we can still have slam of course i must rebid
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Posted 2010-August-12, 07:26

Partners most likely shapes include long clubs and shorter diamonds. So I try the obvious bid: pass.
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Posted 2010-August-12, 07:37

pass, nice to see rogerclee posting again.
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Posted 2010-August-12, 11:38

I would bid 2 at imps for sure, and maybe at matchpoints though Pass is a close second. I pay off to 3=3=2=5, with all other shapes we have a diamond fit (maybe even a 9-card fit) and a void.

edit: I didn't consider shapes like 3316, 3307. These make 2 a lot less attractive. Maybe Pass is right even at imps.
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Posted 2010-August-12, 14:03

I would bid 2 even at matchpoints because I expect it to score better on average and because it might encourage them to balance.
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Posted 2010-August-12, 14:14

It strikes me as "wtp 2". I am surprised so many different options are popular.
We can still have 25-26hcp and/or 9card diamond fit.

I think pass is reasonable and may work too. 2 seems like overbid to me.
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Posted 2010-August-12, 14:24

I think 2 is so obvious. So what if partner is usually long in clubs, he isn't always and I have a void! Also even though I don't consider it good enough to reverse we could still have game and find it over 2. But that's an aside, I just expect it to usually be a better contract than 1NT.
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Posted 2010-August-12, 15:20

jdonn, on Aug 12 2010, 03:24 PM, said:

I think 2 is so obvious. So what if partner is usually long in clubs, he isn't always and I have a void! Also even though I don't consider it good enough to reverse we could still have game and find it over 2. But that's an aside, I just expect it to usually be a better contract than 1NT.

you get my vote. IMO passing 1NT is a give up bid when partner might find a 3 call over my 2 bid
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Posted 2010-August-12, 23:13

Thanks for all the replies. This hand came up with a regular partner and there was some discussion post hand about whether 2NT could be bid with this hand if it were slightly stronger.

I thought 2NT would be at least 18 points and balanced, but my partner believed it could be bid on a much wider range of hands. How much flexibility do you think 2NT should have? Would you bid it with any unbalanced hands? Any 5422 shapes in 15-17 range that you chose not to open 1NT?
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Posted 2010-August-13, 00:09

18-19 balanced. If you are strong enough with this shape why not bid out your suits in case partner is weak in clubs?
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Posted 2010-August-13, 00:21

The only options are Pass or 2D, I would go with 2D.

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