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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2010-February-24, 21:09

(1c)=1d=(1h)=p
(2c)=2d=(3c)=x?



imp.....both nv



what type of hand should x show here please?
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Posted 2010-February-24, 21:18

some kind of hand that wants partner to stop bidding and doesn't think they can make 3C.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 21:25

4 am in the morning, so probably nonsense again, but sounds like a penalty double of 1♥ rather than clubs to me, you better not pass this if your diamonds are headed by KQJ.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 21:31

the only nonsense I saw was the need to clarify that 4 a.m. was in the morning.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 22:00

aguahombre, on Feb 24 2010, 10:31 PM, said:

the only nonsense I saw was the need to clarify that 4 a.m. was in the morning.

????


Again so what example hands do you expect for x and what should the 1d bidder do or think about, sigh?

I mean is AKJTxx the same as KQJTxx and should pull?
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Posted 2010-February-24, 22:35

xxxx Axxx x KQT9 should double for penalties.

The 1♦ bidder should think about what to lead.

AKJTxx is better than KQJTxx because it has the ace. Neither should pull the double.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 23:02

jdonn, on Feb 24 2010, 11:35 PM, said:

xxxx Axxx x KQT9 should double for penalties.

The 1♦ bidder should think about what to lead.

AKJTxx is better than KQJTxx because it has the ace. Neither should pull the double.

ok ty for replies


with that example hand I would have bid 1nt not pass but ok
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Posted 2010-February-24, 23:09

This is one of the most clear penalty Xs I've ever seen.
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Posted 2010-February-24, 23:48

the contention is that, rather than imagining what the double might show, just know that your partner wants to defend. Just sit back, enjoy, and take a lead.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 01:16

Penalty Dbl. Being IMPs, they are going down 2 or more.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 04:05

peachy, on Feb 25 2010, 02:16 AM, said:

Penalty Dbl.  Being IMPs, they are going down 2 or more.


I was wrong



they made...



I assume pard bid something else given these example hands.....I was wrong.


you guys pass with alot of penalty hands ok....I was wrong.

you guys pass alot of 4h ...4c hands...I was wrong...I assume you bid with that.

I was wrong
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Posted 2010-February-25, 04:22

If it can't be takeout, it's penalty. It can't be takeout => ...
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Posted 2010-February-25, 09:30

jdonn, on Feb 24 2010, 11:35 PM, said:

xxxx Axxx x KQT9 should double for penalties.

The 1♦ bidder should think about what to lead.

AKJTxx is better than KQJTxx because it has the ace. Neither should pull the double.

I am glad to see your TOXicity levels are going down and agree it is time to get the lead out (as in opening lead) :)
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Posted 2010-February-25, 10:46

If you act toxic to mike he just runs up his post total with more nonsense.
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Posted 2010-February-25, 10:50

jdonn, on Feb 25 2010, 11:46 AM, said:

If you act toxic to mike he just runs up his post total with more nonsense.

Takes one to know one :)
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Posted 2010-February-25, 10:56

Pardon me, I run up my post total with nonsense no matter how people act toward me!
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