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Reality check

Poll: GF or invitational+ (50 member(s) have cast votes)

GF or invitational+

  1. Forcing to game (47 votes [94.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 94.00%

  2. Invitational or better (NF) (3 votes [6.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.00%

  3. Invitational or better (F1) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Ant590 

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Posted 2009-June-10, 17:26

How do you play

1NT - 2♦
2♥ - 3♣?

Another bet riding on this one, so please vote even if you think it's obvious.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 18:47

Forcing to game.

But some people do play this as forcing to 3Major. That is playable but seriously harms your slam bidding.
Wayne Burrows

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Posted 2009-June-10, 18:55

GF. Not playing Keri, this shows 5H and 4+C.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 19:58

NF Inv (I assume 2♦ xfer and not GF stayman.)
xx AT98x xx KJxx (Opener may have QJX XXX AKJX AXX or JXX QX AKJX AXXX)
or xxx AJTXX x KJ9x ( Same above for Opener hand )
or add another ♣ and discard a S or D 2nd hand
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Posted 2009-June-10, 20:32

game forcing.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 20:37

GF. No exceptions. No options. No passing.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 20:49

So Ant, GF is unanimous. Can we know the background and result of the bet(s), please?
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Posted 2009-June-10, 22:00

The_Hog, on Jun 10 2009, 09:49 PM, said:

So Ant, GF is unanimous. Can we know the background and result of the bet(s), please?

Ant vs Hamdi. Ant wins.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 22:12

Even in acol it's GF.
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Posted 2009-June-10, 22:53

mtvesuvius, on Jun 11 2009, 11:00 AM, said:

The_Hog, on Jun 10 2009, 09:49 PM, said:

So Ant, GF is unanimous. Can we know the background and result of the bet(s), please?

Ant vs Hamdi. Ant wins.

Whoops, forgot the voice from the wilderness!
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Posted 2009-June-10, 23:52

Scoring: IMP


Me  GIB
1NT>2♦
2♥>3♣

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Posted 2009-June-11, 00:00

Yes it is. You think it's not because Gib bid it on an 8 count with a void?
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2009-June-11, 00:27

That hand looks like a normal GF to me.
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Posted 2009-June-11, 00:47

"BBO Best hand experience! Is it really GF ? I saved deal."

Absolutely gf in standard methods. GIB is not noted for its bidding. Anyway, as Wayne points out, the given hand is close enough to a gf to make it only a mild overbid.
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Posted 2009-June-11, 00:54

O ja, dieses bidden ist 100% forsen to der gamen.
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Posted 2009-June-11, 01:28

The_Hog, on Jun 11 2009, 03:49 AM, said:

So Ant, GF is unanimous. Can we know the background and result of the bet(s), please?

I play with someone locally and we were practicing in the bidding room. The sequence

1NT - 2♦
2♥ - 3♣
4♥

came up, and I asked what he plays the difference between 3♥ and 4♥ as. It turns out he bids 3♥ "to play", because he was under the impression that 3♣ was inv+ in standard.

We play in an event that has very nice cakes during the break, so I bet that if 10% of the poll or greater agreed with him I would buy said cake. I now, unless the poll shifts radically, get cake bought for me :)
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Posted 2009-June-11, 01:44

Ant, it's GF, but I think you would probably have expected me to say that!

Enjoy your cake =)
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Posted 2009-June-11, 03:43

Ulrich, on Jun 11 2009, 07:54 AM, said:

O ja, dieses bidden ist 100% forsen to der gamen.

Is that Schwützerdütch?
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Posted 2009-June-11, 17:18

Could any of our French speaking posters please translate that on the offchance that it is interesting.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-June-11, 17:35

100% gf in all versions of standard bidding.

Does that mean the same as 'I hold a hand that will make game opposite your hand'? No. So, to karluk, when GIB (and I can't think of anyone else who would hold up a GIB bid as an exemplar of 'standard' bidding!) forced to game with void AKxxx xxx J9xxx... how else are you bidding? Transfer to hearts and pass? Opposite, say Jxxx Qx AKx AKxx, you miss an almost laydown small slam and a decent grand! So everyone and his dog would gf on that hand... knowing that on a bad day we fail in whichever game we reach.
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