[mtvesuvius]

Playing precision at IMPs:

Scoring: IMP

2♣ - (Pass) - Pass - (2♦)
2♠ - (Pass) - 3♣ - (Pass)
Pass - (3♥) - Dbl - (Pass)
Pass - (Pass)

Lead: 2♥
Result: Making Four. -630.

ATB!

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My partner thought I was showing extras when I bid 2♠. I thought I needed to show my shape and be able to compete immeadiately. My partner contended that he needed to be able to balance, and that I shouldn't be competing when we don't have the BOP, and we rate to have a misfit. He said that in order for me to bid 2♠ I needed way more than what I had, and I should just pass and let them play wherever they play. I thought that his double was extremely dangerous, and that he should pass... He thought I should pull to 4♣ since I'm 6-4, and I've only shown 5-4. I also thought he should raise to 3♣ immeadiately, but didn't bring that part up... Also, he mentioned that we will often have a big misfit and will be going for a number in 2♠ or 3♣ when he is like 6-4 or 5-5 in the reds. I think I cannot live in fear, and must bid there. Anyway, who has lost their mind?

[kenrexford]

Well, I'm rather confused. West has nowhere near a strong 2♣ opening.

Actually, I am confused about one thing -- where's YOUR double? When does your partner think you have extras for your double when you did not double?

Anyway, assuming that the auction is actually what happened...

2♣ = normal
East's pass = dumb ass
2♠ = normal (Of course you need shape but not strength...DUH)
3♣ = has every ounce of that
West's first pass = normal
Dbl = WTF?!?!? East has two cards of interest, and they are in West's length. I might double 5♥, but I'd intend it as striped-tail ape.
West's second pass = what else? West has what West said West has. East doubled. Lead now.

Summary: East is insane.

[rogerclee]

This isn't really fair, as it's clear that East has never played bridge before.

[655321]

Not completely clear about everything, since the text is different from the auction with the diagram, but it doesn't matter.

East is not close to having a double of 3♥ after partner opened a precision 2♣.

Could have been worse, would be -930 if they were vulnerable!

[hanp]

East is wrong.

West should convince east to play that 2C shows 6 clubs.

[mtvesuvius]

Sorry... I have edited it now...

[y66]

agree with kenrexford's comments

[jdonn]

You were right partner shouldn't pass 2♣.
Partner was right you shouldn't bid 2♠.
You were very right partner shouldn't double 3♥.
Partner was very wrong that you should pull his double.

You weren't perfect, but he was a lot worse.

[EricK]

Does anybody have any comments on North's 3♥?

[kgr]

What is precision 2♣ showing?

[kenrexford]

kgr, on May 9 2009, 05:10 AM, said:

What is precision 2♣ showing?

Classic is 11-15 HCP with 6+ clubs, maybe five clubs if a four-card major also.

[kenrexford]

EricK, on May 9 2009, 02:47 AM, said:

Does anybody have any comments on North's 3♥?

A little late arriving to the dance.

[whereagles]

2♠ and dbl = overbids.

[andy_h]

Agree with Josh. 2♠ should be a hand that has some offence for 3♣ (like better intermediates or a purer hand) given that partner passed our 2♣. lol at rest of the auction. The double got what it deserved, and no way in hell should you pull the double. You're even holding ♥Q!

[paulg]

I think 2♠ is in the class of poor bids that work a lot of the time. I'd prefer another spade honour but it's a bid that I can live with.

Paul

[Phil]

2♠ and the double of 3♥ both look like tilt bids to me.

Not surprised there was some acrimony later...

[whereagles]

Actually, I don't mind 2♠ much, as it tries to get opps off the hearts. Obviously, responder took 2♠ as showing nice extras. Perhaps he's more to blame, since he probably failed to see the tactical aspect of the 2♠ bid.

[benlessard]

i hate 2S but hate it less than West pass, wich is still a better bid than his X.

Sometimes you make 3 bad bids and still get a good results, but not here.

[kenrexford]

whereagles, on May 9 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

Actually, I don't mind 2♠ much, as it tries to get opps off the hearts. Obviously, responder took 2♠ as showing nice extras. Perhaps he's more to blame, since he probably failed to see the tactical aspect of the 2♠ bid.

My thoughts exactly. 2♥ gains nothing defensively and thus should be more constructive. 2♠, on the other hand, is the most frustrating call in bridge for the opponents.

[neilkaz]

rogerclee, on May 8 2009, 10:16 PM, said:

This isn't really fair, as it's clear that East has never played bridge before.

I don't care what kind of extras East thinks 2♠ shows.... his double of a part score into game is AWFUL at IMPs.

Regardless of whether 2♣ shows 5♣+4M or 6♣ East really should get his hand off his chest with an immediate 3♣ which is not forward going unless opener has a very nice hand. That might result in shutting the opps out.

Opener's 2♠ is certainly pushy on this real minimum. I'd pass, but I don't hate the bid.

East's complaint that opener didn't pull 3♥x shows that West would do well to find a new PD.

Blame 10% West (2♠ a bit too pushy) 90% East (who should learn not to X part scores into game based on his PD's presumed hand unless he expects to set it 2)