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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2009-February-01, 17:54

IMPs, Red vs White, Third Seat

♠K9x ♥void ♦AKJT9xx ♣Qxx

1♠ - (P) - 2♦ - (2NT)
P - (5♥) - ?

You play 2/1 GF. If you pass, partner will double.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 18:04

Pass and then 5♠ for me.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 18:19

D
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Posted 2009-February-01, 18:37

pass and 5♠.

We need 4 keycards form partner I think (we might need that he has ♦Q if we get shortened on trick 1), so a minimum opennig that fits (or non fitting extras) its what you need for bidding slam after an invitation.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 19:04

H_KARLUK, on Feb 1 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

D

LOL
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Posted 2009-February-01, 19:19

rogerclee, on Feb 2 2009, 03:04 AM, said:

H_KARLUK, on Feb 1 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

D

LOL

I protest your behaviour. Not nice. As topic starter you are expected to be kind.

Just check :
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Given example I did not judge your comments. Tried to show without any sarcastic comment & gloating. I would really like not to see your comments on my next posts. Likewise I ll follow same route and never join your posts from now on.

Good luck in your bridge career.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 19:22

H_KARLUK, on Feb 1 2009, 06:19 PM, said:

rogerclee, on Feb 2 2009, 03:04 AM, said:

H_KARLUK, on Feb 1 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

D

LOL

I protest your behaviour. Not nice. As topic starter you are expected to be kind.

Just check :
http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0&#entry319235

Given example I did not judge your comments. Tried to show without any sarcastic comment & gloating. I would really like not to see your comments on my next posts. Likewise I ll follow same route and never join your posts from now on.

Good luck in your bridge career.

LOL
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Posted 2009-February-01, 19:31

H_KARLUK, on Feb 1 2009, 08:19 PM, said:

rogerclee, on Feb 2 2009, 03:04 AM, said:

H_KARLUK, on Feb 1 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

D

LOL

I protest your behaviour. Not nice. As topic starter you are expected to be kind.

Just check :
http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?sho...=0&#entry319235

Given example I did not judge your comments. Tried to show without any sarcastic comment & gloating. I would really like not to see your comments on my next posts. Likewise I ll follow same route and never join your posts from now on.

Good luck in your bridge career.

Then dont contribute to his posts with insightful comments like

"D"

and certainly don't complain about it when he calls you out.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 21:24

OMG I am just laughing hysterically after reading the link posted, toooo good.

Anyways pass and 5S is way too much imo, we have a 13 count with bad trumps and no club control. I would just bid 5S now and didn't really consider it a close call.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 22:25

5♠. I have no idea if it's a close call or not, I don't believe I have ever held a 3073 hand of this strength on this auction. I do believe however that bidding at all shows plenty of offense, so I am not particularly worried that I am failing to show my hand.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 23:11

Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote.
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Posted 2009-February-01, 23:14

benlessard, on Feb 2 2009, 12:11 AM, said:

Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote.

We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 00:53

Phil, on Feb 2 2009, 07:14 AM, said:

benlessard, on Feb 2 2009, 12:11 AM, said:

Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote.

We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.

Hi Phil, and others.

I am not accustomed to playing 2/1.

Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited?
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Posted 2009-February-02, 01:15

OleBerg, on Feb 2 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

Phil, on Feb 2 2009, 07:14 AM, said:

benlessard, on Feb 2 2009, 12:11 AM, said:

Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote.

We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.

Hi Phil, and others.

I am not accustomed to playing 2/1.

Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited?

It shows (for me anyway), the inability to make another call. It usually denotes a balanced hand without a penalty of their suits, or great support for me, or a rebiddable spade suit. It tends to respect a penalty double from me.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 01:48

Phil, on Feb 2 2009, 02:15 AM, said:

OleBerg, on Feb 2 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

Phil, on Feb 2 2009, 07:14 AM, said:

benlessard, on Feb 2 2009, 12:11 AM, said:

Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote.

We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.

Hi Phil, and others.

I am not accustomed to playing 2/1.

Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited?

It shows (for me anyway), the inability to make another call. It usually denotes a balanced hand without a penalty of their suits, or great support for me, or a rebiddable spade suit. It tends to respect a penalty double from me.

So it typically is a weak NT?
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Posted 2009-February-02, 02:39

You might be cold for 15 tricks opposite a weak NT
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Posted 2009-February-02, 03:27

Phil, on Feb 2 2009, 09:15 AM, said:

OleBerg, on Feb 2 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

Phil, on Feb 2 2009, 07:14 AM, said:

benlessard, on Feb 2 2009, 12:11 AM, said:

Partner passed 2Nt so slam seems remote.

We are playing 2/1. Pard's pass is forcing.

Hi Phil, and others.

I am not accustomed to playing 2/1.

Apart from being forcing, what does partners pass show? Is it limited?

It shows (for me anyway), the inability to make another call. It usually denotes a balanced hand without a penalty of their suits, or great support for me, or a rebiddable spade suit. It tends to respect a penalty double from me.

That description could fit any strength. Does pass limit the strength of the hand?
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Posted 2009-February-02, 04:20

I would pass and pull to show my SI.
We can make slam opposite AQxxx in spades and out opposite a heart lead and a good view in diamonds. So 5 Spades is not enough for me.
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Posted 2009-February-02, 06:09

5♠ or Dbl would deny slaminterest, hence both are not my choice.
My hand is certainly slaminterested, even a Grand is possible here.
A fast 6♠ might well elicit a 7♥ insurance call which i could pass to show void and grand interest.
My bid is 6♠!
To pass and then pull a Dbl to 5♠ or 6♦ would tend to show a singleton ♥ and more hi card values IMHO

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Posted 2009-February-02, 10:42

jdonn, on Feb 1 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

5♠. I have no idea if it's a close call or not, I don't believe I have ever held a 3073 hand of this strength on this auction. I do believe however that bidding at all shows plenty of offense, so I am not particularly worried that I am failing to show my hand.

Doesn't a forcing pass, then pulling partner's double show more offense? 5♠ immeadiately is not a ST imo. Pass then 5♠ for me.
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