[gwnn]

Scoring: MP

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1♦-1♠-X-p
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1♦ showed (4)5, promising an unbalanced hand and 11-17. partner is promising some values over there. he may have a good one suited hand (NFB).

would you do something else under different circumstances? opps are juniors.

[jtfanclub]

Can he have a GF hand with 5+ hearts? Or do those bid 2!H?

[gwnn]

he can have a good one suited hand with any of the unbid suits. negative freebids had been agreed. (this wasnt us, but we got into a bit of a debate)

[benlessard]

Passing 1S is dangerous but bidding 2Nt also. Im passing here. Ive assumed that without game aspiration and 3D+4H partner would raise me to 2D instead of making a neg double.

[655321]

Pass.

Even more attractive under the stated conditions - partner cannot have a weak hand with a long suit.

[Codo]

While playing NFBs, I have the rule that we play strong jumps. So my pd luckily cannot have xx,KQJTxxx,A,KQx.
But I guess this is not part of their system, so this is a hand which he may have.

But I would still pass. I have an easy lead and we may not be happy in any game our side either.

[mike777]

gwnn, on Jul 17 2008, 07:30 PM, said:

Scoring: MP

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1♦-1♠-X-p
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1♦ showed (4)5, promising an unbalanced hand and 11-17. partner is promising some values over there. he may have a good one suited hand (NFB).

would you do something else under different circumstances? opps are juniors.

Wish I opened offshape 1nt

[helene_t]

Agree with pass.

[rbforster]

Codo, on Jul 18 2008, 02:52 AM, said:

I have an easy lead and we may not be happy in any game our side either.

Make sure you lead face down, so your partner can remind you it's not your turn!

[rogerclee]

I would just pass.

[kenrexford]

Pass, and then lead the third-best diamond. This is, of course, a lead out of turn. However:

Partner was going to lead a stupid diamond anyway. If the opponents require a diamond lead, maybe partner can lead one the works opposite my announced weakness. Or, maybe the opponents elect to not make partner lead "my suit."

If they accept my lead, great!

If they make this a penalty card, who cares?

If they bar a diamond lead, this is the best of all worlds.

I'M JOKING.

[Double !]

they're Vul and we're not?

I pass, even though I suspect that the opening lead might be unfortunate. Hope P doesn't lead something like the D-K from Kx. If we have a game, then I expect at least +500, a nice score to get. What's the minimum that P can have for the neg X? Hope P doesn't neg X on junk: I need P to have at least 1 entry. Another reason I pass is that I have no other bid that begins to accurately describe my hand,....2NT?....The least lie?...
I think we should be able to beat this contract for a minimum of +200.


DHL


BTW: I agree with Ken's recommendation of the lead out of turn, but lead the jack it playing coded 9s & 10s. Just a suggestion.

[the hog]

I find pass such a poor call that it is amusing. I would bid 1NT here, an underbid, but if partner bids again I am very well placed.

[jdonn]

Experienced players have always discovered over time that pass works really well here. There is no other call to seriously consider.

[mikeh]

I pass as well... at imps, this might be more of a problem since we could be missing a slam, but even if we are we may get 800 and not lose a lot at this heat. As it is, 200 beckons when we can't make game and 500 when we can. We rate to lose a trick on the opening lead, but I think we can survive

[gwnn]

I thought pass was obvious and had lots of sympathy to my opp. They got 200 but they had 920 available when doubler had 5-5 in the reds. Obviously to describe double as bad would be an understatement. I was arguing with my teammates, they thought penalty passing was very stupid and I was insane for agreeing with the Polish lad.

[Double !]

Csaba: my condolences and support to the person who passed 1SXX. Partner should never have had the type of hand you just described.

If the re-doubler had 5-5 in the red suits, why the H--- is he making a redouble? Just to show 10+ points? Obsolete, and a bad idea, imo. When you have a 2-suiter, especially with a good hand. don't waste time making a redouble. Start bidding your suits. I don't believe that this is a non-standard idea. And, if you happen to be playing fit bids, how nice. When one redbl's, whether or not one plays that it denies a fit, a redouble tends to show a more balanced hand in order to permit partner to co-operate in the doubling of the opponents process.

DHL

[effervesce]

Double !, on Jul 20 2008, 06:43 PM, said:

Csaba:  my condolences and support to the person who passed 1SXX.  Partner should never have had the type of hand you just described.

If the re-doubler had 5-5 in the red suits, why the H--- is he making a redouble?  Just to show 10+ points?  Obsolete, and a bad idea, imo.  When you have a 2-suiter, especially with a good hand. don't waste time making a redouble.  Start bidding your suits.  I don't believe that this is a non-standard idea.  And, if you happen to be playing fit bids, how nice.  When one redbl's, whether or not one plays that it denies a fit, a redouble tends to show a more balanced hand in order to permit partner to co-operate in the doubling of the opponents process.

DHL

He didnt redouble-it was a takeout double of the 1♠ overcall. He's forced to X, as they play negative free bids, and bidding 2♥ is a weak hand with long hearts.

With 5-5 in the reds and a good hand, partner is forced to double with the given methods.

[the hog]

gwnn, on Jul 21 2008, 02:44 AM, said:

I thought pass was obvious and had lots of sympathy to my opp. They got 200 but they had 920 available when doubler had 5-5 in the reds. Obviously to describe double as bad would be an understatement. I was arguing with my teammates, they thought penalty passing was very stupid and I was insane for agreeing with the Polish lad.

Well, as I said, I agree totally with your teammates. Would you really have been totally SHOCKED to write down -160? This is particulalrly true playing the methods you describe.

I think I am a little "more experienced" than at least one amusing poster who made a trite and supercilious comment. However I guess that particular poster is not "experienced enough" to understand NFBs? Pass really is not a good call.
(DHL, Double!, clearly does not understand the methods used either.)

[655321]

The_Hog, on Jul 20 2008, 11:11 PM, said:

gwnn, on Jul 21 2008, 02:44 AM, said:

I thought pass was obvious and had lots of sympathy to my opp. They got 200 but they had 920 available when doubler had 5-5 in the reds. Obviously to describe double as bad would be an understatement. I was arguing with my teammates, they thought penalty passing was very stupid and I was insane for agreeing with the Polish lad.

Well, as I said, I agree totally with your teammates. Would you really have been totally SHOCKED to write down -160? This is particulalrly true playing the methods you describe.

I think I am a little "more experienced" than at least one amusing poster who made a trite and supercilious comment. However I guess that particular poster is not "experienced enough" to understand NFBs? Pass really is not a good call.
(DHL, Double!, clearly does not understand the methods used either.)

This link talks about level of experience, and may be helpful.

It is not important how well you think you play, since most bridge players are unable to assess their own skills with any accuracy. What matters is your level of experience and the degree of success that you have had in live, competitive clubs and tournaments.