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Poll: Strangest - but possible bid you can think of here? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Strangest - but possible bid you can think of here?

  1. 3 Diamonds (3 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  2. 3 Hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3 Spades (5 votes [20.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.83%

  4. 3N (10 votes [41.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

  5. 4 Hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 4 Spades (4 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  7. 5 Hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Slam (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. (2 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2008-June-23, 16:30

In an ACBL game, you are dealt a perfectly normal weak 2: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x and its w/w at matchpoints.

LHO overcalls 3♣ and pard makes a penalty double.

I posted this because my opponent made a pretty strange bid that paid off. Can you guess what it is?

By the way, I disregarded Pass, since that is the obvious bid.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 16:31

3N or 4C
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Posted 2008-June-23, 16:42

I would guess 3NT.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 16:56

I'll guess 3♠ because 3NT doesn't seem sufficiently weird.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 17:05

3♦?


Looking for and finding a 4-4 major suit fit, no doubt...maybe even a 5-4?

Not sure if that qualifies as weird... actually, I can't really think of a plausible call that is automatically weird, other than silly ones like a splinter, 5♣, keycard, etc.

3Major is obviously possible.. so is 4 major... 3N is possible based on long, strong hearts and the diamond Ace and so on. I suspect the weirdness is not so much in the bid as it is in the hand with which the bid was made.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 17:23

3D which made!?
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Posted 2008-June-23, 17:33

4♠

This presupposes he is playing or thinking that 3♣ as a takeout promising some major suit hand.

I further suppose it didn't get alerted.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 17:51

4♠ ?
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Posted 2008-June-23, 18:05

3♠ is the call that was made.

I hope you all got what I was trying to accomplish by asking the "strange bid possible'

Of course his partner hit with ♠AKJxx ♥AKx ♦xx ♣xxx. They scored up a nice 170. Pard was wrapping 3♣.

I felt totally railroaded.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 18:09

Well, if 3♣ wasn't alerted, you should get some adjustment for it.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 18:17

just to clear things up, the auction read:

2♦(^) - 3♣ - X(*) - P;
3♠ - all pass

^ - weak, diamonds
* - penalties

preemptor held: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x
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Posted 2008-June-23, 18:33

matmat, on Jun 23 2008, 05:17 PM, said:

just to clear things up, the auction read:

2♦(^) - 3♣ - X(*) - P;
3♠ - all pass

^ - weak, diamonds
* - penalties

preemptor held: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x

Well that wasn't clear (to me). I thought you held the 2D opener, and your RHO bid something over the X. So my vote is meaningless.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 19:23

A fairly strange bid that might pay off is 4♣ -- pick a major.
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Posted 2008-June-23, 19:37

pclayton, on Jun 23 2008, 06:30 PM, said:

... and pard makes a penalty double ....

Was the double alerted as a penalty double?
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Posted 2008-June-23, 19:51

matmat, on Jun 23 2008, 07:17 PM, said:

just to clear things up, the auction read:

2♦(^) - 3♣ - X(*) - P;
3♠ - all pass

^ - weak, diamonds
* - penalties

preemptor held: ♠QTx ♥xxx ♦KQxxxx ♣x

I'm confused. From the opening post (and Phil's later post), I thought the auction was:

2♦-3♣-DBL-3♠
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Posted 2008-June-23, 19:55

Oh yeah. I was confused too.

I think the auction is:

2♦-3♣-X-?

Then the question is "what bid by Advancer?"

I have no guesses.
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Posted 2008-June-24, 01:55

The pronouns in the OP are a bit confusing. I think it means what do you do holding this hand (the weak 2♦ hand) after partner has made a penalty double of 3♣, because when his opponent held that hand, he didn't pass the penalty double. I don't think Phil was the one holding the weak 2♦ hand.
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Posted 2008-June-24, 08:34

I looked up the hand on myhands, and the auction was as I had understood it from phil's post (and as I had posted). 2D was announced as weak and the X was alerted as penalties.

the weak 2♦ bidder responded with 3♠ on QTx to their p's penalty double.
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Posted 2008-June-24, 09:54

Now I know why I have problems reading other peoples' posts :rolleyes:

It was my LHO that held the weak 2 and pulled the 'penalty' double to 3♠. What a catch he received.
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Posted 2008-June-24, 10:21

OP was clear.

I voted 3NT. Fooled me.
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