[cnszsun]

Scoring: IMP

1♣-(1♥)-ps-(ps)
2♦-(ps)-?

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You passed in first round, then partner reversed in balancing seat, what kind hand did he get, and your action?
At table, i thought his most likely shape was 5♦s+6♣s, then we only needed him holding ♦K and ♣AK to make 5, so i jumped to 5♦. Was my thinking correct?

[whereagles]

2♥, followed by 3♦. Or a direct 3♦ if pard is an overbidder.

Pard cannot have 65. That would give opps like a dbl fit in the majors and they'd surely be bidding more.

[mike777]

As usual with tough bidding problems x or cuebid is often a fair option.


cuebid of 2h here.

[helene_t]

My immediate reaction was 3♦ but thinking more about it, we almost certainly make 5♦ if p has his bid.

4♦ it is. P is probably void in hearts (a reverse shows a hand that would not like to defend 1♥X I think) so it's no problem to bypass 3N.

2♥ would show a trap pass I think.

[kgr]

Jlall, on Nov 18 2007, 06:25 AM, said:

I would just bid 4D.

I'm always happy if I would have chosen the same bid as you....so I'm worried about my choice now:
Here I would bid 2H followed by 3NT. Don't you think that 3NT is still a possible contract?

[mr1303]

Why didn't I bid 1NT the first time round? That way I'd get my hand off my chest.

I'm going to try 3D here. 3NT may be a good contract.

[dicklont]

It's a pity I didn't bid 1NT on the first round.
What does partner have? He didn't reopen with a double, and he must be quite strong for his reverse. I shouldn't hang him for it though.

I will show my support with 3♦, if he's 15-17 it's probably ok,
since 3NT will then only make with Ax, xx, KJxx, AKQxx.
If he's stronger i guess he'll cue 3♥ and we end in 3NT.
With more distribution (5-6 is suggested) we will find 5/6♦ (and i hope it will be the right one then ).

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

5-4 is possible, and more likely than 6-5,
if he has 6-5, he will make another move
if I show some live.

I guess I would go with 3D, if I would bid
stronger, partner may give me a trap pass.
For that matter, why did I not bid 1NT?

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: An interesting point to discuss with partner
is, if 2D is forcing or not, and if it is forcing, if
2NT would be what ever you call it (e.g. Lebensohl).

[Codo]

3 ♦ is enough for me, I would expect pd to reopen with hands which are a tad weaker then a normal reverse.

I had bid 1 NT the first round too, but don´t mind passing, this is minimum with a weak stopper, so enough reason to downgrade.

[mike777]

3d seems too little here for me. Partner has a real good hand.
More than:

AJ..xx.......AKxx........Axxxx

[skjaeran]

mike777, on Nov 18 2007, 06:12 PM, said:

3d seems too little here for me. Partner has a real good hand.
More than:

AJ..xx.......AKxx........Axxxx

I agree with the first part, but not the 2nd.
That hand is an obvious balancing double and so is stronger hands of this type. You're really happy if partner converts holding hands like this.

Btw, I'd always bid 1NT on the previous round with this hand,

[pclayton]

Pard is either a 5-6, but could also be a very strong hand with the shape inappropriate for a TOx - something like a 1=3=4=5 20 count.

In either case, I'm not interested in 3N.

4♦ is a very intelligent call. We might even have a slam opposite: A, x, KJxxx, AKxxxx.

[Codo]

Okay for all the guys who dislike 3 Diamond:

1. What is the worst hand you bid 3 Diamond with?

2. What is the worst hand you expect pd to have for his reverse?

[mike777]

Codo, on Nov 19 2007, 02:48 AM, said:

Okay for all the guys who dislike 3 Diamond:

1. What is the worst hand you bid 3 Diamond with?

2. What is the worst hand you expect pd to have for his reverse?

IF partner can bid 2d on a 3.5 two suited loser hand....we got to bid more than 3D.

in another words if we got 2 or 2.5 winners or more we got to bid more than 3d....with less 3d is fine.

[jdonn]

Codo, on Nov 19 2007, 02:48 AM, said:

Okay for all the guys who dislike 3 Diamond:

1. What is the worst hand you bid 3 Diamond with?

2. What is the worst hand you expect pd to have for his reverse?

I would bid 3♦ with the diamond ace less.

[P_Marlowe]

jdonn, on Nov 19 2007, 03:13 AM, said:

Codo, on Nov 19 2007, 02:48 AM, said:

Okay for all the guys who dislike 3 Diamond:

1. What is the worst hand you bid 3 Diamond with?

2. What is the worst hand you expect pd to have for his reverse?

I would bid 3♦ with the diamond ace less.

And I would pass without the Ace.

The question a partnership has to answer is,
is 2D forcing / nonforcing, and if you have
answered this than you know, what you have
to bid.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[Codo]

So if Kxxx,xx in the minors and out is all you need, then pds best hand must be something like:

AK,xx,AQxx,AKxxx, because with less you will seldom make 5 Diamond?
Or do you really believe in xx,-,AQxxx,AKxxxx and the opps just bidding 1 Heart with 17 Majors suit cards and 23 HCPS between them?

I still cannot construct any hand where you need to bid 3 Diamonds with f.e. xxxx,xxx, Kxxx,xx.

So any advice is still welcome.