The HAND.
In another thread, a world class player presented a pair of hands that he claimed Bens system would not be able to handle. Looking at the hands, he realized the best contract was 6H, but he incorrectly estimated that if I had them I (inquiry) would end up in 4♠, but that at least "he would play in 4♥". About 6♥s he said, I'm not suggesting that any method gets to the decent 6♥ (on the second hand), but I do know that I'd prefer the 10 card fit to the 8 card fit on that one and the 9 card fit to the 7 card fit on the first .. (and in the immediate post before this hand.. ) Please do not tell me your 'fix' for this.
Since he didnt want to hear the fix and since the thread was about opening 2♣ I just made a short reply to insure him that wouldnt my auction, but I didnt explain what it would be. But if I had, it would have shown how EASILY it is to get to 6♥ on not only the pair of hands he showed, but other related ones as well. The reason I didnt post the auction is that 1) he wasnt interested in what he calls my kludges and 2) the auction would have started on that hand with MisIry transfer, and was inappropriate for the thread that dealt with started with 2♣ (as he predicted I would open in his post).
Then, Mike read one of the threads on MisIry, and predictably, he didnt like the MisIry kludge either. I will address a number of his complaints in the complaints about my presentation of MisIry in the challenge I make below, but the comment I want to focus on was the one where he said, You ignore the reality that most top pairs are able to bid most strong 5-5 hands with considerable accuracy. Your method gains only on some unusual sub-sets of the strong 5-5 hands.
The irony of his posting just one hand (so far) that would be related to MisIry contrasted with his comments that top pairs bid these with considerable accuracy was too much for me to ignore using the VERY hand he proposed and claimed (I think) that no (aka any) method could reach 6♥ was just too much to leave on the sideline. So now I just have to use his proposed hand to show how MisIry would be used on it.
The responder hand, in Mikes post was this exciting collection.
You know that of the ♠AKQ, and ♥AKQ, your partner either has all six of these or he is missing just one. Why? Because if he only two losers, and at least one of those is in ♣s, that statement HAS to be true. So if your partner is missing the heart Queen, you would want to be in slam. The truth of this statement is also obvious, I am sure you agree.
But what if your partner has all six of MAJOR top honors, is slam hopeless? No, slam can is a good shot if partner has Ax of diamonds. Why? Because if he has Ax of diamonds, the worse hand he can have is AKQxx AKQxx Ax x (he could have AKQJT AKQTx AQ K as his best). Against any of these possible hands where partner has two diamonds without the KING, you can reasonable hope to win 5♥, 5♠, 1♦ and a ♦ ruff in your hand.
So do you give up as finding out what you need to know is too complex (Mikes I'm not suggesting that any method gets to the decent 6♥ ) With MisIry, it is actually very easy to ask questions of opener in an effort to discover what you want to know. Lets examine how this hand would be bid using using MisIry. To remind you, the MisIry auction would have started 2NT 3♣ 4♠ where 4♠ shows major two suiter, two losers, one in clubs.
The option I would use here as responder is to bid 4NT over 4♠. This 4NT, as those of you who have read the MisIry thread know, shows a second round control in diamonds and slam interest. Now, you can see you dont have a second round diamond control, but those reading about MisIry know the miserable trick where you can often magically treats some xx and xxx suits as a distributional King (or second round control). The term I use for this is distributional in quotes to make distinct from singletons (I will switch to calling this a non-material second round control, in honor of Ottiks work on non-material squeeze, and because non-material control is easier to understand as a cover of this nature where you have neither the King nor a singleton). The point being is if the partner has Ax of diamonds, you WANT to be in slam. The truth of this statement is self evident. Because he will have AKQxx of spades or better (not longer, but he could have the Jack or the ten or both), and the AKQxx of hearts. Also, if partner has A of diamond and Ax of clubs, you will need to reach some slams as well. In fact, as responder with this hand, you have not yet given up on grand slam as we shall see.
♠AKQxx ♥AKQxx ♦Ax ♣x 2NT-3♣-4♠-4NT-5♠-6♥-Pass. NOTES, 5♠=♦ king working (material or non-material version), I have both queens. This is the worse hand opener can have for 5♠.
♠AKQxx ♥AKxxx ♦AK ♣x 2NT-3♣-4♠-4NT-5♣-5♦-5♠-6♥ NOTES, 5♣ Diamond control useless, but I am missing a major queen. 5♦ what queen (paradox responses). 5♠ missing ♥Q. Since ♥Q is a loser and opener has a club loser, his hand will be this one, or one of the following, AKQJT AKxxxx void Ax, AKQxx AKxxx void Kx, AKQxxx AKxxxx void x, etc. Of the possible hands, the worse holding is the ones with Kx of clubs, but then you can throw a club on partners spade.
♠AKxxx ♥AKQxx ♦AK ♣x 2NT-3♣-4♠-4NT-5♣-5♦-5♥-PASS NOTES, 5♥ = paradox this time since I have ♥Q I bid 5♥. So opener is missing the ♠Q and a ♣ loser. Responder knows that slam is at best 50% (should partner have AKJxx of spades, and could have no play if partner has AKxxx so signoff is clearly best.
♠AKQxx ♥KQxxx ♦A ♣Ax 2N-3C-4S-4N-5D-5H-Pass NOTES, 5♦ is checkback for non-material diamond king. 5♥ is both, yes, it was a non-material squeeze, and I was hoping to throw my diamonds away on your spades and then ruff your diamond loser, and I lack a sure trick or I would not have bid 5♥. Opener passes 5♥ as partner with ACE of clubs and Ace of hearts would have bid grand over 4♠ and with either of these cards will bid slam over 5D. Stop is easy (same auction if you were missing K of hearts, or A or K of spades).
♠AKQxx ♥AKxxx ♦A ♣Kx NOTES 2NT-4♠-4NT-5♦-5♥ Pass. NOTES, This hand is similar to the last one. This time, however opener is stronger, and he knows partner has four hearts to bid this way with no top ♣, no top ♠, no top ♥, and no top ♦, he surely has five hearts, although Jxxx is possible. Which such a dearth of values, odds are he does have five hearts, and a bid of 6♥ would be the logical choice. In the off chance that partner has Jxxx maybe hearts are 2-2 or 3-1
♠AKQxx ♥AKxxx ♦A ♣Ax NOTES 2NT-4♠-4NT-5♦-5♥-6♣ 7♥ Pass. NOTES, Same as last hand, but the club ACE changed for the king. Here, you will not pass 5♥. In fact, you will bid 6♣ looking for a non-material club value. This 6♣ bid shows five or six hearts to the AK (so heart Q is one loser), and Ax of clubs. A hand like this or similar one with diamond void. The grand slam is bid then, elementary my dear Watson.
♠AKQxx ♥AQxxxx ♦void ♣Ax 2N-3C-4S-4N-5D-6C-7H-Pass NOTES, Same as last one. If you go with the belief that your partner has five hearts, the ask for non-material club here makes the same sense as it did last hand. Of course, if you dont want to play in grand missing ♥Kx you can simply bid 6♥ or, possible pass (because you might lose a ♥ and a ♣ in that case.
♠KQxxx ♥AKQxx ♦AK ♣x 2N-3C-4S-4N-5H-Pass, No danger bidding 5H. If partner has ♠A or ♣A he will carry on to slam. Throw out the stop warning. This includes all hand with top club loser and missing AK of either major suits.
♠AKQxx ♥AKQxx ♦void ♣Kxx 2N-3C-4S-4N-5H-Pass, A fairly good slam missed here, and change clubs to Axx, then a great Grand slam is missed. But those MisIry people who choose to show a non-material club instead of a non-material diamond by bidding 5♣ over 4♠ will get to slam on the first one, and grand slam on the second one. I prefer the non-material diamond ask, as it simplifies asking for the ♥Queen.
♠AKQxx ♥AQxxxx ♦A ♣x 2N-3C-4S-4N-5H-Pass, ok, ok, no matter rather you start with non-material 4NT or non-material 5C, MisIry will not get you to all slams, there is still room for improvement I guess.
As a fun exercise, consider the auction if responder's ♠ and ♣ holding were reversed. The hint is now that non-material 4NT will get you to slam if opener can use the ♦ ruff, or if either queen major queen is missing. Not to mention the slams that were biddable above. I hope you found this amazing, or interesting, or amusing. Amazing perhaps, because of the type of information you can seek and find. Interesting, because of the varieties of ways slams and grand slams pop up out of nowhere. Or at least amusing (what Ron called fun in another thread. Or amusing due the juxtaposition of Mikes presenting the hand and double dummy implied no way to bid the slam, and his comment that top pairs bid most 5-5 hands accurately then he shows one that he (world class) cant even see a logical way to bid it to slam.
Criticisms:
Before we get to the challenge, let me predict what the critics are on this post, based on past comments.
1) The first one is that transfer preempts when weak disadvantage you. I agree, I would never play transfer preempt without a second meaning, as here.
2) I cherry-picked the hand (implying that I choose this hand that highlight the advantage of my method). Richard has used this multiple times. I have tried to take approaches where I dont select the hands. I took every hand played in ACBL tourneys one week (picking the WEEK before the hands were played). Richard said I cherry picked them. I then took all hands played on April 1, 2005 (posted on my blog, some here), Richard said I cherrypicked them. Then I took all hands played by Richard on BBO (his side or other with the strong misIry). He said I cherry picketed them. So it is a no-brainer he will complain about that I cherry picked this one too, despite it being used by someone to allegedly show the weakness of my system, when in fact it shows the strength (in my view) of my method.
3) Some will say that I made these auctions up to explain the existing hand and the auctions would not go this way (despite I have rules already stated in another thread on "looking for distributional queens" (missing queens in openers hand), and "distrubutional kings" (the non-material king of diamonds and in some places the non-material king of clubs discussed above).
4) However, a fair complaint, of sorts, is that the hands from OKB and BBO were bid by ((er, how should I phrase this? )) less than expert and experienced partnerships. This is true, and it goes directly to MikeHs comment that most 5-5 hands are bid accurately by experts. This is of course true, EXPERTS BID ALMOST ALL HANDS accurately (q.e.d.) But I do disagree with the concept that I ignored that most bid them correctly. I choose BridgeBrowser as a tool to find the hands, because it can search tens of millions of played hands in just a few minutes to find ones that fit the shape/strength requirement needed to examine the convention. However, while this was the only way I could find LOTS of hands to examine, in hindsight showing what the results of the found hands at the tables WAS A MISTAKE. My selection of hands was never meant to say, see only way to bid this hand right is to use MisIry. I went out of my way (see cherry picking topic above) to use Bridge Browser in a way to suggest that I wasnt cherry picking hand that work with MisIry and ignoring the ones that dont. I wanted to show the good and the bad, not the difference between table results and the convention, but just if the convention worked. I wanted the presentation to be fair. Several people, however, have focused on the quality of the other bidders, which was not the reason for the exercise. Now on this pair of hands, mike might well suggest that this hand is an example of the few hands that maybe this convention would do better on the current expert standard (and Richard could show us Moscito relay no doubt). I will accept however that maybe this hand is that "rare 5-5" that mikeh talked about that disadvantages standard expert methods. Maybe it is just funny coincidence that the hand he selected is so extraordinarily rare, and that is it. But that leads to the challenge....
CHALLENGE
To investigate the implications of MikeHs comment about hands using BridgeBrowser will not cut it. There simply isnt enough top-class events in the database (Stephen you listening?) It is too much work for one person to shift though thousands of expert hands manually to find such hands (which is why I used Bridgebrowser), so here is the challenge. I would appreciate it if any forum member who happens to notice a strong 2 suited hand that fits the MisIry requirement in expert play (Vugraph, books, tourney bulletins, etc) to post those hand here with the results of the bidding. Of course, dont wait for one that the pros do badly on, post all of them. Feel free to post ones from expert bidding contest as well. This is the only way I can figure out how to address the comment from MikeH and others about the quality of the bidders (when in fact, I never really care about that, but rather if the MisIry method itself works). But I suspect some will find the comparison (good or bad) interesting.
Thanks for listening,
ben.

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