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#21 User is online   akwoo 

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Posted Yesterday, 18:56

I bid 3C over 2H.
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Posted Today, 03:50

akwoo 3♣ with jillybean in South:

MP

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Posted Today, 04:54

Hi,

#1 1C
#2 X after 2H, 3H is forcing to game, and assuming no error, as far as I counted I have 14HCP, with a single Q in
their suit facing a passed hand, i.e. why should I force to game?

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Posted Today, 06:28

 P_Marlowe, on 2026-October-11, 04:54, said:


#1 1C
#2 X after 2H



I don't think I would move in South over the probable 3H by East.
Do you pass it out?
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Posted Today, 06:38

View Postpescetom, on 2026-October-11, 03:50, said:

akwoo 3♣ with jillybean in South:

MP


This is looking promising, I’m waiting at the bar.
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
Bridge should be fun!
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Posted Today, 06:40

 jillybean, on 2026-October-11, 06:38, said:

This is looking promising

You have to play it now, you're not going to like the first trick.



 jillybean, on 2026-October-11, 06:38, said:

I’m waiting at the bar.


You may get off lightly, the bar is humming with discussion of my opening.
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Posted Today, 08:19

View Postpescetom, on 2026-October-11, 06:40, said:

You have to play it now, you're not going to like the first trick.

This is where I usually fail. Today, I have the time to lay out the cards and give it a proper try.

View Postpescetom, on 2026-October-11, 06:40, said:

You may get off lightly, the bar is humming with discussion of my opening.

:)
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
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Posted Today, 09:05

View Postpescetom, on 2026-October-11, 06:28, said:

I don't think I would move in South over the probable 3H by East.
Do you pass it out?

Sure, partner heared me.
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Posted Today, 09:16

View Postpescetom, on 2026-October-10, 12:41, said:

Jillybean "not a mechanical error" 3♥:
MP


apollo1201 and mike777 X:
MP


WasWinM Pass:
MP


Isn't MP fun? :)

This isn't so tough, especially as partner isn't supposed to have 4 hearts, so the double is neither takeout nor penalty but informatory, telling me he has a maximum for this actions, so probably a decent 10 count. My hand isn't especially defensive, anyway, so I'm bidding 3C.

Something to consider here: If 3 clubs or diamonds is making, that's 110, so a double and a 1-trick set still doesn't help us if the scores are all plus 110. If they are +130, we should be copmpeting to the 4 level. The only time it's really right to double hearts is if we are a maximum of +110 and can set them for +300. It's much easier to get that magic number at 3H than 2H, although they do (or should have) a nine-card fit.

And finally, if LHO made an inspired 2H call with 5 hearts and caught magic, pay off the fix. They happen.
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Posted Today, 10:04

The auction ended swiftly at my table, it's friday night and this is my rogue NT partnership:

MP

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Posted Today, 10:18

View PostWasWinM, on 2026-October-11, 09:16, said:


Something to consider here: If 3 clubs or diamonds is making, that's 110, so a double and a 1-trick set still doesn't help us if the scores are all plus 110. If they are +130, we should be copmpeting to the 4 level. The only time it's really right to double hearts is if we are a maximum of +110 and can set them for +300. It's much easier to get that magic number at 3H than 2H, although they do (or should have) a nine-card fit.



NS did indeed have 3 making in the minors and EW only 2 hearts making (LoTT compliant).

Unsurprisingly nobody passed the board out, would have been about 40%.
Only our one surviving 4 card major pair got to play 2♦+1, nobody the clubs.
Most tables played 3♥-1 with one hothead table in 4♥X-2.
Two tables played 3NT South, going down 2 on a hearts lead taking out the Q.
I played 3NT North, making +1 on a hearts lead won by the Q.
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Posted Today, 10:33

Here is the full board:

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Posted Today, 12:01

View Postpescetom, on 2026-October-11, 10:33, said:

Here is the full board:

MP


So you were the fixer instead of the fixee. Well played.

The most interesting question to me would be in this auction:

P-P-P-1C
P-1D-2H-P
3H-X-P-?
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Posted Today, 12:07

North certainly should be down on a heart lead. I would add the auction calls for an aggressive rather than passive lead.

That could have been a thread in itself.


All around excellent post in many ways, thanks for sharing.
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Posted Today, 12:57

View PostWasWinM, on 2026-October-11, 12:01, said:

The most interesting question to me would be in this auction:

P-P-P-1C
P-1D-2H-P
3H-X-P-?


Yes it's interesting, as South I struggle to imagine what hand my partner could have to open in fourth but pass over 2H.
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Posted Today, 12:59

View Postmike777, on 2026-October-11, 12:07, said:

North certainly should be down on a heart lead. I would add the auction calls for an aggressive rather than passive lead.

That could have been a thread in itself.


The choice of 4♥ lead was curious, but opponents were unhappy for some reason and I didn't enquire further.
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Posted Today, 13:11

Magnifico
“It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.”
Bridge should be fun!
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