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Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day

#1881 User is offline   benellis58 

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Posted Yesterday, 04:35

The hopelessness of the GIBBO 2C structure is exposed, as it is just about EVERY time 2C is used. The system has multiple flaws, but perhaps the worst of all is the astoundingly stupid use of a 2NT bid by responder to show "Positive no trump - 2-5 clubs; 2-5 diamonds; 2-4 hearts; 2-4 spades; 8+ HCP". Which intellectual wizard decided that THIS travesty would be a productive use of the 2NT call? Let's look at this garbage piece by piece:

"Positive no trump". As opposed to what: NEGATIVE no trump? Stupid and useless introductory three words (along the same lines as other CLASSICALLY annoying GIB intros such as "Invite to 3NT game"; "Minor-suit opening"; "One over one"; "Two over one"'; "New suit"; "The LAW"; and other TOTALLY unnecessary opening statements to GIB definitions).

"2-5 clubs...2- 4 spades". Wowee, zowee: We know that he has at least two cards in each of the four suits, we know he could have up to five cards in either minor, and we know he could have up to four cards in either major, and...who CARES about ANY of that, because we've wasted an ENTIRE level of bidding and know NOTHING useful about the the specifics of ANY of his suits.

"8+ HCP". So , he COULD have 8...or...he COULD have 37, since no upper limit is stated. How does that vague, general statement help in ANY way whatsoever?

Note that by needlessly HOGGING the NT, North is very possibly wrongsiding the contract. Here, for example, his club "stopper: is 106 doubleton (!), and he actually HAS wrongsided the contract! Note that with North declaring NT, East-West (on this random layout on this random hand) can take the first FIVE (!) tricks if East leads a club through South's KJ dub, beating even a lowly THREE no trump if it's played by Hand Hog North, whereas played by SOUTH, a NT contract is ICE COLD for at LEAST 10 tricks and might WELL make more...since the contract is played from the CORRECT side where the KJ dub of clubs IS a stopper!

I have played MANY hands where the M.O.R.O.N.I.C. robot, playing his equally M.O.R.O.N.I.C. GIBBO joke of a system has responded 2NT with TWO unstopped suits.

Also, when the jerk responds 2NT, it makes it MUCH more difficult (AND space-consuming) to find partnership fits, particularly 4-4 major fits.

Finally, when the WEAK hand stupidly bids 2NT, it effectively makes IT the "captain" on the hand, which goes against ALL logic.

The GIBBO bidding system in general is the worst I have ever seen: a poorly structured, often redundant, frequently illogical, antiquated, often unworkable MESS...but bad as the overall system is (and it is very, very, VERY bad!), one of its worst features is the mind-bogglingly imbecilic 2C structure that it CURSES all its users with.

Fortunately, the GIBBO East robot on lead against 3NT led a typically stupid 9 of hearts (!) from 6543, 92, 105, 98753, INSTANTLY picking up his "partner's" heart queen (by inference), and allowing us to win an EASY 12 tricks. We scored THREE overtricks on a hand that could have been beaten (!) on the fly (!) because it was played from the WRONG side! To beat it, ALL the GIBBO simpleton in the East had to do was follow the LONG-established principle of "lead the fourth-best card from your longest and strongest suit".

GIBBO stinks. Its system stinks. Its definitions stink. Its robots stink. Please get rid of it and replace it with something decent. Please make BBO a better, more popular, and more successful site by doing that.

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Posted Yesterday, 04:41

East overcompetes with a STUNNINGLY stupid 2S call on K73 tripleton and "earns" himself another complete zero to add to his world-class collection of total failures.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:44

One of the countless reasons that the GIB/GIBBO robots are by FAR the worst "bridge players" I have ever seen is that they are the worst leaders I have ever seen. To be fair, after Lorserker made some small improvements, the GIBBO robots are at least a little bit better on leads than their disgusting GIB predecessors, even though they are still absolutely atrocious. Here is an example featuring the same hand from four different tables with four different auctions...and with the GIBBO robot in the West making extremely stupid leads in ALL FOUR (!) different scenarios!

First, my table, where a club lead against my 3NT was OBVIOUS, but the imbecile stupidly led the Curse of Scotland. (Speaking of "curses", BTW, the GIBBO robots should be known as the "Curse of Bridge"!)

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Next, a different table with a different auction to 3NT, but where a club lead was AGAIN OBVIOUS, but where the braindead GIBBO robot again stupidly led the Curse of Scotland:

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Then, another different table with another different auction to 3NT. HERE, the opening leader DID lead a club - bravo...EXCEPT that the stupid clueless OAF led the WRONG club. Instead of making the NORMAL lead of the king (from THIS particular holding), the clueless JERK foolishly and laughably led the NINE (!) and got an even WORSE score than the feebleminded GIBBO rubes who had stupidly led the 9 of diamonds! You CAN'T make this stuff up! Here's THIS twit:

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And the final table had a fourth different auction, this time (amazingly) stopping in only TWO no trump. Here the GIBBO clown led the Curse of Scotland, like most of the other GIBBO c.r.e.t.i.n.s.:

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Posted Yesterday, 08:05

At trick seven, declarer North leads the diamond jack and the GIBBO trout in the East fails to cover. It's now child's play to repeat the finesse and take all the remaining tricks.

If the clueless GIBBO fool had covered, declarer would have had to guess which opponent had the diamond 10. If he chose to play West for now having a stiff 10 remaining, he could cash dummy's queen and then dummy's 9 would then be high and he would still take all the remaining tricks...BUT...

If he chose to play EAST for the 10, he would cash dummy South's spade king, ruff a spade back to his hand, and then lead a diamond to dummy's NINE...LOSING to East's now-stiff 10.

These worthless GIBBO chowderheads OFTEN cover when it's CLEARLY wrong to do so, yet HERE - where it's clearly RIGHT to cover, the GIBBO piece of trash in the East doesn't! They are so, so, SO disgustingly, sickeningly bad.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:12

West's 3S bid: Why is this loser raising 2S to 3S? Answer: Because these GIBBO rejects think that any time "partner" shows a sixth card in his major, diamonds and emeralds will magically fall from the sky. Well, at least it SEEMS that might be what they think, because they OFTEN overbid in this type of scenario. Maybe if they were buried forever in a landfill (hint, hint) this GIBBO stupidity would finally end.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:22

North can't bid THREE diamonds - oh no, PERISH the thought...and yet...he is later positively THRILLED to bid FOUR diamonds. Where the HELL is the logic? Where the HELL is the consistency?

Answer: Surely NOT in the Bizarro World of GIBBO!

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Posted Yesterday, 08:41

OMARHEUM has sent three more hands. Here is the first. He writes "I checked the definition of 4NT and it sounded like what I had: no promise of any major stoppers, just a strong unusual NT. I bid it hoping pard would choose his best minor, rather than just bidding a unilateral 5D, but he passed. Down 8 for 22%."

My comment: Obviously inexcusable, obviously ridiculous. The total incompetence of the GIBBO robots is exposed to the world for the Nth time.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:47

OMAR again. He writes "I had a tie for top of 64% here where I was quite surprised to hear East pass his partner's support jump shift."

My comments: One: I would probably be less surprised than OMAR, because I see these GIBBO knuckleheads constantly committing atrocities. Two: Here's a suggestion, GIBBO: If you're going to play a convention, try to UNDERSTAND it!

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Posted Yesterday, 08:56

Third of three from OMARHEUM. He writes "Very next hand partner did not meet his definition of 3S. This put us in the most common contract (by far) on this hand. He had no fifth spade and a collection of quacks barely adding to 6 points, but he felt compelled to bid again. Our score was worth 60%."

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Posted Yesterday, 11:35

It is impossible to overstate how bad the GIBBO robots are. If a hand EVER occurs where at least one of the three robots did not do something stupid, it is an extremely rare occasion. They are horrendous, and I suspect they will always be horrendous.
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Posted Today, 04:02

Our result on this board was normal and fine, and would not have been affected if North had defended differently, but despite all that, the hand still shows GIBBO's lack of logic.

On this auction, and with North's hand, I think a heart lead would be "normal" against the 3C contract, regardless of what might or might not occur on any random layout. He, however, chose a spade. Why? Any reason? I strongly doubt it. In any case, the spade lead did not harm us, nor did it help us, as the hand was pretty much always slated for down two, unless declarer West was inspired to play North for a doubleton king of clubs offside.

On the spade lead, dummy's queen was played from QJ86. I, South, won the king, as declarer West followed with the 2. Clearly, I was now marked with the ace.

At trick two, I shifted to the queen of hearts, won by dummy's ace from AK9.

At trick three, declarer called for dummy's stiff club 5. I played the 8, declarer tried the queen, and North won his offside king. What should he now play?

Well, an argument could be made for a spade, since I was marked with the king and very likely also had the 10 (since declarer had not ducked in dummy at trick one) behind dummy's remaining J86.

An argument could also be made for a heart, since I had shifted to the queen at trick two and had already knocked out dummy's ace.

So, did North lead either of those two logical choices? No. He led - of all things - a diamond - looking at dummy's K10753. Why? Is there any reason? Is there any logic?

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Posted Today, 04:13

East makes the BEST lead of the heart 4 against North's 3NT. Bravo, Mr. East, you are clearly one of the greatest GIBBO robots of all time. You even correctly led your fourth-best, adhering to the GIBBO directive. Well done, Sir!

West, East's "partner" WINS his heart JACK at trick one and...SHIFTS (!!!) to the club three! Just HOW stupid, just HOW hopeless, just HOW pathetic...are these GIBBO buffoons?

Yet another complete zero to lock into one of the countless vaults holding their world- famous collection of unrelenting failures.

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Posted Today, 04:19

After 1H by South, pass by West, 4H by North, East made a takeout double (perhaps because of his long diamonds - ha, ha), that might well have been PASSED or "taken out" to diamonds. He didn't even THINK of bidding spades - his SOLID 8-BAGGER!

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Posted Today, 04:39

DECLARER North leads a CLUB (the 3) at trick two towards dummy South's A64.

"Defender" East plays his 9 from J9 doubleton. It wins the trick, as declarer calls for dummy's 4 and West follows with the 5.

At trick three, "defender" East plays the JACK OF CLUBS (!), because these simpletons, the WORST "bridge players" of all time, LOVE to return DECLARER'S suit. Declarer wins the ace and later hooks West's 10, to win three club tricks in all.

NS have a shared top of 95.45 % on the board, and East-West are probably heartbroken that they have only a SHARED bottom of 4.55 %, meaning that they will sadly be unable to add this hand to their REVERED, WORLD-FAMOUS collection of TOTAL zeroes - the one and ONLY aspect of bridge where they outshine (albeit it in a Bizarro World way!) everyone else.

GIBBO robots totally rot.

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Posted Today, 04:56

Your 3D call, Mr. North, is described as "Unbalanced". For ONCE, I agree with the GIB definition: Your bid is indeed "unbalanced"...as are YOU and all your GIBBO brothers and sisters.

Yes, I realize that you have - WOW - FOUR (!) diamonds. Golly gee, what MASSIVE support! And yes, I also realize that your bid actually does adhere to the remainder of the GIB definition (something that robot bids often FAIL to do), which is "4+ diamonds, 5-7 total points"...BUT... you are vulnerable, you are almost pancake flat at 4-2-4-3, you have a mere 5 HCP with FOUR of them in SPADES, you can add ONLY one point for distribution ( for the doubleton heart), and in the GIBBO system, your "partner" South could have as few as three diamonds. There is an excellent chance that you are giving your EW opponents a fielder's choice here. They have the option of bidding if it seems "right", since in such a case a wimpy little 3D won't shut them out...OR of doubling you (VULNERABLE, remember!) if THAT seems better.

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Posted Today, 05:03

To me, although I wouldn't be THRILLED to lead a diamond, it is the NORMAL lead. And yes, I realize that it COULD sometimes work out poorly, but I STILL think it's the best and most normal option from this hand.

On a diamond lead, declarer would take only 10 tricks.

On West's typically foolish and typically cowardly trump lead, it was easy for declarer to knock out the ace of hearts and take ELEVEN tricks.

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Posted Today, 05:14

Regardless of layout or result, why on Earth does North (with four trumps BEHIND the spade bidder) lead a DIAMOND (the suit that dummy East opened and rebid!) rather than a HEART (the suit that North's "PARTNER" South overcalled with)? Why are these repulsive, sickening GIBBO monstrosities so stupid, illogical, and downright perverse that they LOVE to lead enemy suits and HATE to lead partner's?

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Posted Today, 05:20

West bids 3C, which could conceivably END the auction in the (hopeless) GIBBO system, yet later - with his partner East merely PASSING after North bids 3S over 3C - West bids 4H. Where is the logic to this sequence? Where is the consistency?

And no, West did NOT get a good score on the board.


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