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Benellis58 GIB bashing on repeat Groundhog Day

#1861 User is offline   benellis58 

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Posted Yesterday, 06:16

At trick six, East manages to BLOCK the heart suit by imbecilically following with his 5 instead of his 10. A chimpanzee would have had a 50 % chance of pulling the CORRECT card, whereas the totally incompetent and clueless GIBBO jackass apparently had a ZERO percent chance. If you threw this dimwit into a jail cell with 99 SHOES and then gave all 100 prisoners an intelligence test, the GIBBO ROBOT would end up in 100th place, and the various pieces of FOOTWEAR would occupy positions one through 99.

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Posted Yesterday, 08:42

Another amusing thread exploring the incredible, overpowering incompetence of the hopeless GIBBO robots:

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Posted Yesterday, 09:20

Valued contributor OMARHEUM has again sent a hand. This post (#1863) will focus on his table, and the next post (#1864) will examine what happened with the same board at a different table.

OMAR wrote "93%. I was already lucky to find spades 3-3 but even luckier that West did not continue diamonds at trick 7."

Quite true.

And I'd also like to take this opportunity to bash some GIB definitions:

1S begins with these three words: "Major suit opening". Do we REALLY need to be told, Mr. GIB?

2C begins with these two words: "New suit". Do we REALLY need to be told, Mr. GIB?

3NT is defined as "3+ clubs; 3- hearts; 5-6 spades; 15+ HCP; 18- total points; partial stop in diamonds, partial stop in hearts". Some of this is fine, but some other stuff, well:

"5-6 spades": I suppose it's possible for him to have 6 spades, but often with 6 he would have bid bid 2S over 1NT or 3S or 4S over 2NT.

"15+ HCP": Why? North has promised "10+". There are SURELY many South hands with "only" 14 HCP where he would accept the invitation.

"18- total points": ANY mention of "total" points should always be ignored in ANY GIB definition, because GIB has frequently shown that it lacks even a basic comprehension of "total" points. Besides, North is inviting in no trump, so why would South's "total" points even be in the conversation?

"Partial stop in diamonds": Why, pray tell? WHY? NORTH heard South bid both BLACK suits, and then NORTH invited in NT! It's up to NORTH to have diamonds stopped. Note that on the actual hand, South has a stiff 8 of diamonds - not exactly a stopper (!) - and it's not South's bid that's wrong - it's the typically pathetic GIB definition that's wrong!

"Partial stop in hearts": Why, pray tell? WHY? NORTH heard South bid both BLACK suits, and then NORTH invited in NT! It's up to NORTH to have hearts stopped. Note that on the actual hand, South actually does have a heart stopper, but he didn't HAVE to.

Okay, here's the link to the board at OMAR's table:

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Posted Yesterday, 09:54

Now we'll look at what happened with the same board discussed in post #1863 immediately above, but at a different table (actually MANY different TABLES) from OMAR's.

OMAR wrote "Most common scenario was down 1 at 119 tables".

My comments:

Interestingly, at the sample table shown (although probably not at all 119 tables where the contract went down one), the human South was clearly operating by jumping (!) to THREE NT (!) over North's forcing 1NT.

Perhaps MORE interestingly, on THIS (bizarre) auction, the GIBBO East did not make the normal diamond lead that OMAR received. HERE, for Lord knows what reason (if ANY!), the robot led his queen of hearts from Q7 doubleton. Declarer North won his heart ace at trick one (just as OMAR had won HIS diamond ace at trick one) and then did exactly what OMAR had done at trick two: He led his spade 9 towards dummy South. The robot in the East AGAIN diverged from his earlier counterpart's play. Whereas the East against OMAR had played his 6 from QJ6, THIS East played his jack. I wonder if the two Easts in question had any actual REASONS for what they did. Maybe they're both just randomly tossing cards. It seems that way MOST of the time with these execrable GIBBO robots.

East was allowed to hold the trick. His (strange) opening heart lead had actually hit the jackpot, and it would have been fine for him to play a second heart, but he didn't. NOW he played a diamond...for the first time. Why DIDN'T he play a second heart? Well, perhaps because of what his imbecile of a "partner" had played at trick one. If YOU were sitting West on this hand, and if YOUR partner had led the heart queen and you saw that dummy, wouldn't YOU be thinking, "Wow! Great lead, partner! Wouldn't YOU want to encourage with your heart holding of J109654? Well, that's one of the countless reasons that YOU are infinitely better than a GIBBO robot! Because the braindead robot sitting West had played the...FOUR (!) of hearts at trick one - his LOWEST heart - presumably a DIScouraging signal if it was attitude and an INCORRECT signal if it was count...because the robots play standard signals, not upside-down. Truth be told, mind you, the *****ous rubes probably don't play ANY signals, since they stupidly seem to treat all spot cards as interchangeable equals.

Here the robots did not blow the defence as they had at OMAR's, so a fairly "normal" result of down one occurred.

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Posted Today, 01:09

Just popping in to remind everyone that the GIBBO robots are completely hopeless at bridge, that their antiquated system is a joke, and that their definitions are pathetic in every way. I'll return later with specific examples...although anyone who plays with or against these sickening monstrosities undoubtedly has many personal examples of their own of the GIBBO atrocities they have suffered from or profited from.
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Posted Today, 01:23

Sorry: In the preceding post, I forgot to mention that the GIBBO robots are garbage. My sincere apologies for the omission.
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Posted Today, 03:24

I guess it was MUCH too difficult for the GIBBO robot in the East to lead...the unbid suit (!), clubs. He thought that a MUCH better choice was a TRUMP, so he led his 4 of hearts from 42 doubleton.

Spoiler alert: His typically imbecilic lead of a trump was actually NOT the best lead. (Who would have guessed?) In fact, it was - surprise, surprise and shock of shocks - the WORST lead. In other words, it was a TYPICALLY miserable GIBBO lead.

It inspired his witless "partner" West to put up his king from K86, so not only had the lead FAILED to establish a club trick on the fly, and not only had it FAILED to knock out a dummy entry early, but it had also - LAUGHABLY - turned East-West's "guaranteed" trump trick (the heart king) into NO trump tricks for East-West.

I forget: Have I ever mentioned that GIBBO robots are garbage?

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Posted Today, 04:34

South opens 1NT in third seat and all pass.

West is on lead with KQ1085, K1082, Q7, Q8.

He leads...the deuce of hearts - his shorter, weaker major. Why? Simple: Because he's a GIBBO robot and, as such, he has no clue about how to play bridge.

No, he did NOT get a good score on the board. Yes, a spade lead WOULD have been better for his side.

If bridge were a boxing match, his cornermen would have thrown in the towel LONG ago. BBO should do exactly that with these disgusting clowns.

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Posted Today, 04:40

North's 4D is defined as "6+ diamonds; 11-14 total points".

His hand is VOID, Q76, J109754, KJ32. Do YOU see the advertised points? Bear in mind that they have not really agreed on a fit, since South merely did what he was told, via North's transfer.

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Posted Today, 05:29

GIBBO "logic". GIBBO "consistency". Both on FULL display in this latest episode of "GIBBO Stinks".

North PASSES his partner South's 1NT opening bid. He is QUITE content to stay at the ONE level.

In 4th seat, East balances with 2H, showing hearts and a minor. South and West both pass.

North is a GIBBO robot, and in such situations GIBBO robots almost NEVER pass. I have seen them bid 2S at this point with as few as three HCP and with a spade suit of 5432. So it is no surprise AT ALL that North bids 2S, and when I later see his hand, I see that he would have made the same call with a LOT less, since he has 10642, J105, A107, K102.

East now confirms that he too is a GIBBO robot, meaning that he too is a total I.D.I.O.T. He bids three HEARTS with VOID, A7642, KQ9852, 87. Now, if he chooses to bid, even red against white as he is here, that's one thing. I won't criticize him for that. BUT...if he's GOING to bid, surely he should bid three DIAMONDS, not three hearts! First, his partner knows that he has hearts, but he doesn't know about the diamonds, since 2H showed hearts and an unspecified minor, so why not now TELL partner that the minor is diamonds? Second, his diamonds are longer than his hearts. Third, his diamond quality is superior to his heart quality. Fourth, over 3D his partner can choose the better fit, either by passing or by converting to 3H, whereas over 3H, West would have to go to FOUR diamonds if he preferred the minor, and that's if he even KNEW the minor.

3H is wrong in every way imaginable, which is why the GIBBO robot bid it - because HE is also wrong in every way imaginable and is a disgrace to the game of bridge AND to BBO.

Anyway, over 3H, South competes with 3S. Note that the word is "competes", NOT "invites"! West passes, and the gnarly M.O.R.O.N. in the North, the same M.O.R.O.N. who was VERY happy to...PASS...one no trump...now RAISES 3S to 4S, thereby pulling one of his favourite moves: HANGING "partner" for competing. If you TRIED to create a STUPIDER set of robots it would likely prove impossible.

4S was NOT a success, and was not helped by the typically unfriendly BBO layout. I see more Hawaii five-ohs on BBO than anywhere else in "real" bridge OR on any other bridge websites.



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Posted Today, 05:40

North is a GIBBO robot. That, by definition, means that North has no clue about how to play bridge and that he is one of the worst and most repulsive "bridge players" in the history of the world. That in turn explains his magnificently M.O.R.O.N.I.C. play of the ACE (!) of diamonds at trick one.

Garbage belongs in a garbage dump, a landfill, or an incinerator, so why is this perpetual GIBBO garbage still polluting BBO rather than being placed in one of the three aforementioned areas where it belongs?

Fortunately, we still scored 85.7 % on the board, but that does not excuse North's mammoth ignorance. Please note, BTW, that I am not picking on North personally, as I am well aware that he is no more of an I.D.I.O.T. than any other member of his GIBBO family, because they all stink.

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Posted Today, 09:01

1. 2S is defined as showing "5+ spades". What? Bid whatever you want, Mr. West, no problem, but what the HELL is up with that abnormal definition? A "weak jump overcall" (also a quote from GIB here) NORMALLY shows SIX (or more), not FIVE or more. Note that West DOES have the NORMAL six (not FIVE!) spades. Why the Bizarro World definition?

2. 3S is annoyingly (what else?) defined by GIB as "The Law" (yeah, right - who CARES?) and continues "9 trump - 3 level - 4+ spades - 4-16 total points". Apart from the usual total garbage about "total" points, this bid would NORMALLY require "only" THREE spades (not "4+") to add up to 9, since the 2S call would NORMALLY show SIX. Note also that East actually HAS "only" THREE spades, not the "4+" promised by this SECOND Bizarro World GIB definition!

3. West happened to be "right" to bid 4S, since 4H happened to be cold, but it was still a VERY undisciplined call, since a basic principle is that you don't pre-empt and then bid again.

4. We took the obvious 6 tricks (1 spade, 1 heart, 3 diamonds, 1 club), so North's STRANGE and DANGEROUS diamond (!) lead happened to be irrelevant, but WHY would he lead a diamond rather than a NORMAL club or heart?

5. Even though West was "right" to sacrifice with his UNDISCIPLINED 4S call, he still got what he deserved - what these GIBBO losers ALWAYS deserve just on principle (!) - another complete ZERO to add to his massive collection.

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Posted Today, 09:53

I wanted to double 2S for penalty. Whether or not that would have worked out, though, I couldn't do it because of the ridiculous GIBBO system. The GIB definition of a South double over East's 2S was "Takeout". This makes NO sense! South had already narrowly defined his hand with his 1NT opening, so North already had a good general idea of South's hand and did not need to be "prodded" by a TAKEOUT double. Furthermore, in the (hopeless) GIBBO system, North's 2C Stayman call promised at LEAST invitational values and theoretically asked for a four-card major (unless, as here, he was planning on subsequently inviting game in NT), so South KNEW that his side had the balance of power on the hand. He had FOUR good spades...BEHIND East, and in fact would have bid 2S himself had East passed. It is insane for a double to be TAKEOUT in these circumstances.

BUT...we have to live with the disgusting conditions imposed on us by the stupefyingly hopeless GIBBO system, so I passed. West also passed, and North now COMMITTED a typically stupid and INCONSISTENT action. He bid THREE no trump.

Had he initially leapt to 3NT in response to my 1NT opening, I would not have had a single word of complaint, regardless of what happened on the hand. After all, he had a decent 9 HCP opposite my known 15-17, AND he had a great source oftricks with his nice five-bagger (KQ643) of clubs, so 3NT would have been a very reasonable call. Of course, this is BBO, so it was NO surprise that the East-West cubs broke 6-0, because BBO is ALL ABOUT bad breaks!

But here's the thing: Although an initial leap to 3NT would have been quite reasonable, the GIBBO robot in the North initially took a CONSERVATIVE view and obviously intended MERELY to invite. He began with "Phony Stayman", bidding 2C even though he had no four-card major. Clearly he was planning on next bidding 2NT over whatever I responded (be it 2D, 2H, or 2S), in order to invite 3NT (or, as the tremendously annoying GIB definition would say, inviting "3NT game").

I would not criticize THAT original plan either. He has a hand that COULD easily produce a game, so an immediate jump to 3NT could not be criticized, but the hand is "only" 9 HCP, including a doubleton jack, and might NOT produce a game if South has a minimum, so a more cautious approach of merely inviting 3NT could not be criticized either.

BUT: Changing horses in midstream certainly CAN be criticized! Given that his original intent was obviously merely to INVITE 3NT by bidding "only" 2NT over my presumed response to (Phony) Stayman, why did he NOW - AFTER East had shown values (!!!) decide to change his mind and LEAP to THREE no trump at his second turn to bid? EVEN if he had been "right" to do so, EVEN if 3NT had made, his bidding would STILL have been inconsistent!

Given that his original intention, for better or worse, had merely been to INVITE game, it would have been CONSISTENT for him to STILL bid "only" TWO no trump after East's 2S intervention!

But don't EVER expect consistency, logic, intelligence, or ANY sort of ability from a GIBBO robot, because you will invariably be disappointed. They are the lowest of the low, the worst of the worst, and SO many of their actions are straight out of Bizarro World. GIBBO robots rot!

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Posted Today, 10:00

Typically pathetic "defense" from beginning to end, as Frick and Frack add yet another complete ZERO to their collection. How many dozens of warehouses do these numbskulls require to store their history of failure?

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Posted Today, 10:28

Absolutely ridiculous double by Donald J. Dumbo in the East. Highly questionable 4C call by Johnny Halfwit in the West (especially since he's playing with a total loser like Dumbo). Put these two stooges (or ANY two GIBBO robots!) together and you see the result: a humiliating minus 1100 for the VERY inaccurately named "Ginsberg's Intelligent..." (HA! HA! HA!) "Bridgeplayers" (sic!). Yeah, right: about as "intelligent" as the stuff that sticks to the bottom of your shoes when you walk through a muddy field.

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Posted Today, 10:37

Regardless of whether or not 3NT happens to make on this random hand, it is the "normal" contract that you would expect NS to be in. North's 3C, with TWELVE HCP, is a stupid bid, because 3C is for play...and is EXACTLY the call he would have made with only TEN HCP. As a side issue, whether or not you think inverted minors is a good system (and I don't), the way GIBBO plays the system is, as you would expect, the WORST possible way. There ARE ways to play inverted minors intelligently, but of COURSE GIBBO doesn't follow the INTELLIGENT ways.

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Posted Today, 10:46

North's 4D is defined as "Cue bid - 1+ club; 4+ diamonds; 5+ spades; no ace of clubs; ace of diamonds; 13+ total points".

Do YOU see the ace of diamonds? No? That makes sense, because I don't see it either. Now if the partnership cuebids KINGS as well as aces, that would be one thing, but clearly they DON'T, and clearly the definition PROMISES the ACE of diamonds. Guess what, GIBBO? It's usually NOT wise to lie to your "partner"...especially in a potential slam auction.

BTW, on THIS auction, why the HELL would West lead a DIAMOND?

Have I ever mentioned that GIBBO is garbage? Oh, I have? Good!

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Posted Today, 10:59

Another hand from the irrepressible OMARHEUM, who writes "Just Declare. Results ranged from down 1 to down 4. At my table down 2 was 83%. Balancing 2C bid would not have occurred to me."

I think OMAR would have plenty of company with that opinion. No bridge player would bid 2C with the South hand on this auction, as West (BEHIND him) is guaranteed to have at least four clubs. Some hardy (or possibly foolhardy, depending on the random layout of this random hand) might balance with two diamonds, but only an imbecile such as a GIBBO robot would balance with two clubs.

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Posted Today, 11:42

In case anyone hasn't noticed (ha, ha), there seems to be one dominant theme that emerges from the more than 1800 posts in this thread, and that theme is that the GIBBO robots are absolutely hopeless and should have been replaced by decent, competent robots long ago. Does BBO not care that such a key feature of its otherwise fine site is such a total disgrace and such a blemish to BBO?
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