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More Adventures with Rex and Jay! 1) What would you bid 2) Who's to blame?

#21 User is offline   microcap 

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Posted 2005-March-18, 11:30

I like 2♥ better myself than 1♥, though I still agree with my partner's original pass. I did not agree with the 4♥ jump for the reasons in my last post...

This is what makes bridge such a great game! LOL :) :)
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Posted 2005-March-18, 11:35

In the first hand being BAM I overcall 2♥. Once I have passed the double of 2♠ should be takeout so I take out to 3♦.

In the second hand I would say the blame is 50 to North for playing with South and 50% to South for playing with North. Seriously every single call is terrible.
North passes with an opening bid.
South doesn't act over a weak 2 specially playing with a pd that doesn't open with opening values
North that considered his hand not enought to open 1♥ now thinks he can bid 3♥ maybe looking for a 1100.
And south finally decides that if pd can bid 3♥ alone his hand won't produce a 10th trick to try the heart game.

Funny!
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Posted 2005-March-18, 14:16

:D Believe me, if you knew Rex and me, you would give us each 100% of the blame for playing with each other! LOL :D
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Posted 2005-March-18, 15:00

microcap, on Mar 18 2005, 08:16 PM, said:

:D Believe me, if you knew Rex and me, you would give us each 100% of the blame for playing with each other! LOL :D

In a recent f2f tournament in the last session there were 1 kibitzer following the leaders and about a dozen following a pair that was 6th...
:-) Even when some boards end up badly some pairs regardless of their level are worth watching. Because they can be fun and entertaining... I'm sure yours maybe one of them!
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Posted 2005-March-21, 15:13

blah wrong topic :-P
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Posted 2005-March-21, 17:50

Hannie, on Mar 17 2005, 01:48 PM, said:

pclayton, on Mar 17 2005, 10:03 AM, said:

I know about the bromide about doubles below 2♠ being takeout, but can anyone actually construct a hand where this makes sense? A cooperative double I can see, but not takeout.

How about x Axx AKJxxx K10x? Is this hand any less likely than the 5-6 hand you just posted (given that our hand is unknown)?

I prefer to have very clear rules about when a double is penalty and when a double is for take-out, and I'm willing to play slightly inferior methods if they guarantee that we never have misunderstandings about this. I'll believe you if you say that it is better to play the double as penalty, but my rules say it is not. These rules have served me in the past.

This hand doesn't convince me that double is best, and I'm not sure that one exists that does.

If the partnership wants to have a meta-agreement that undiscussed low-level doubles are takeout, thats fine.

But if we are trying to sharpen our doubles, on balance, don't you think that double is better as penalty here (and more importantly, more frequent?).

If you want to make a more common hand, give pard a good spade suit; say: AQTx and some defensive tricks in clubs.
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