Would you raise, or do something here?
Pd opens 4S vul. Go slamming?
#1
Posted 2014-December-27, 05:32
Would you raise, or do something here?
#2
Posted 2014-December-27, 06:50
Even in an established p, ... in my regular p, I guess I have to raise to 6S.
I am still waiting to see a 2nd red vs. green 4S opening bid in our partnership.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#3
Posted 2014-December-27, 06:56
#4
Posted 2014-December-27, 10:10
FWIW the field agreed, our table was the only one in game I know it's silly, but I learned something for random play
#5
Posted 2014-December-27, 10:31
diana_eva, on 2014-December-27, 10:10, said:
FWIW the field agreed, our table was the only one in game I know it's silly, but I learned something for random play
Maybe, just maybe, the field didn't agree with your partner's 4♠ opening?
#6
Posted 2014-December-27, 10:45
kjx
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Seems like obv 4s bid I wonder how ur p would react if he held that and u bid slam????
#7
Posted 2014-December-27, 10:52
cherdano, on 2014-December-27, 10:31, said:
Vast majority opened 4♠, but i think some went the slow route with a 1♠ opener. Partner had AKQ9xxxxx in spades and stiff ♥A. There were plenty 4♠ - 6♠ to support partner's theory.
EDIT: I found the hand and more people played it meanwhile. Now the most reached slam via a 2♣ opener!
This post has been edited by diana_eva: 2014-December-27, 11:01
#8
Posted 2014-December-27, 11:07
#9
Posted 2014-December-27, 11:38
eagles123, on 2014-December-27, 11:07, said:
Lets make the North hand more realistic, exchange the Ace of hearts with a small x,
4S is now a reasonable opening bid.
Besides, ... as long as we give opener a running spade suit, the slam may be on,
unless they lead hearts.
Having said this, playing with a random p, assuming he has a running suit is betting
with low odds of winning.
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#11
Posted 2014-December-27, 11:44
Is also 4s bid and even 4 level is far from safe.
Honestly think that if u open this kind of hand at 4 level u have to accept missing slam sometimes
#12
Posted 2014-December-27, 11:49
eagles123, on 2014-December-27, 11:44, said:
Is also 4s bid and even 4 level is far from safe.
Honestly think that if u open this kind of hand at 4 level u have to accept missing slam sometimes
Yes, if this hand qualifies, which it would for lots of peoble, than pass is clear.
But you could sharpen the definition of your preempts in 2nd seat red vs. green, and than the hand
may only qualify for 3S or 2S.
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#13
Posted 2014-December-27, 12:09
Never mind the hands eagles has been posting, with those outside kings bolstering them - I would consider eg
KQJTxxxx
xxx
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xx
a WTP 4♠ in any seat except 4th at any vul.
#14
Posted 2014-December-27, 12:19
P_Marlowe, on 2014-December-27, 11:38, said:
4S is now a reasonable opening bid.
In third or fourth seat, yes. Not in first and certainly not in second where there is a good chance that you will preempt your unlimited partner.
P_Marlowe, on 2014-December-27, 11:38, said:
with low odds of winning.
I fully agree with this.
The whole thing becomes clear when you hear opener's comment: He thinks a 4♠ opening shows 10 top tricks.
Rik
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#15
Posted 2014-December-27, 12:56
Trinidad, on 2014-December-27, 12:19, said:
I fully agree with this.
The whole thing becomes clear when you hear opener's comment: He thinks a 4♠ opening shows 10 top tricks.
Rik
Yup. Remember this guy and DON'T double him.
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#17
Posted 2014-December-27, 17:48
diana_eva, on 2014-December-27, 10:10, said:
LOL, your "partner" must have missed the beginner class on preempts, and the entire series on conduct and demeanor. You were definitely unlucky to get a less than random partner. Sometimes when you roll the dice, you roll craps.
#18
Posted 2014-December-27, 19:47
Diana, beware of these experts, but you knew that.
(still learning)
#19
Posted 2014-December-28, 02:22
but, if he hv 11 -15 pts, i think 1S is the best opening
#20
Posted 2014-December-28, 04:55