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Posted 2005-February-14, 19:25

This one happend in a strong match today on BBO.
This was the trump in 6S.
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Q106

whats the right play to lose only one spade ?
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Posted 2005-February-14, 23:33

If you assume best defense, I think you should start by leading low to the 10. If that loses to the Jack, cash the Ace next. If the 10 holds lead low to the Queen next.

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Posted 2005-February-15, 00:56

Hi Flame

There is a nice little freeware program called Suitplay which is very useful for analysing any card combination you want to throw at it. You can get it at :

http://home.planet.n...cis45/SuitPlay/

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Posted 2005-February-15, 18:48

both tables began with the Q, it might have been easier to do so from entry precpective.
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Posted 2005-February-15, 19:52

Low to the Q is better than low to the T. This lets you lead low to the T later if the J drops under the Q.

The 3-2 cases wash out. At first glance, one might think that low to the T is better because it picks up KJxx on the right if defender played low. But this is not so against best defense - player with KJxx should hop K. Now are you going to really play low to the T next, and lose to KX onside instead? Of course not, you will play Q. KJxx on the right will take 2 tricks.
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Posted 2005-February-15, 20:48

Good analysis Stephen - I missed that. Did you figure that out on your own or did you use Suitplay? ;)

Here is one that has been making the round of the Las Vegas bridge community:

Qxx

K9xx

You need 2 tricks.

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Posted 2005-February-16, 00:04

im sure theres some trick but i would lead low to the queen then duck one. if low to the queen lost to the ace, i would next lead towards my K9x and if they didnt put in an honor i would win the king then lead up to my 9x.
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Posted 2005-February-17, 05:50

fred, on Feb 16 2005, 02:48 AM, said:

Good analysis Stephen - I missed that. Did you figure that out on your own or did you use Suitplay? :)

Here is one that has been making the round of the Las Vegas bridge community:

Qxx

K9xx

You need 2 tricks.

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Lead to SK. If wins, play small s from both next. If SK loses to LHO, lead to SQ next and then lead to S9.
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Posted 2005-February-17, 07:44

For all that fail to reach the precision of suitplay, take comfort in this analysis by Fred: Expert Errors

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When players like Hamman, Meckstroth, and Chelma each play the same trump suit differently, it illustrates that perfect suit combination play is not a critical factor in winning bridge. The second best play usually gets the job done. Your bridge goals should not include perfection - that is impractical. They should be to avoid completely ridiculous plays and to be aware of some of the "non-intuitive" plays. Studying suit combinations (either through tables or through formal analyses) can help you achieve these goals.


Look ma, I play like an expert. :)
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