[Fluffy]

I don't see this one that hard really, it only requires responder to know that 5♣ is an option, then he will

suggest spades with 1♠
suggest hearts with 2♥ showing values on the way
suggest clubs with 3♣
and finally over 3NT he can either pass or suggest slam in NT with 4NT. Even suggesting clubs again with 4♣ works as partner will quickly reject more loudly with 4NT.

Bidding 3♥ instead of 3♣ doesnt't make any sense. 3♥ is even non forcing for me (5-5 invitational), but assuming it was it is missdescribing and more space consuming.

[the hog]

Trinidad, on 2013-November-14, 04:32, said:

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I also think that those who condemn anybody for opening this hand 1 ♣ are ... STOP. Helene is still right.

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Rik

Rik, who condemned anybody for opening 1C? My post stated " he would certainly open with 1D to avoid a rebid problem". This is my opinion. If others want to open 1C om 4/5 ms, that is their problem, not mine. I continue to hope that they do it.

[hrothgar]

FWIW, I posted this hand as a poll on Bridgewinner's yesterday.

The thread is available at http://bridgewinners...cj=82460#c82460

Few quick observations.

70% of the respondents stated that they preferred to pass rather than make any kind of opening. (This was without including a statement that the pair plays a conservative opening style which I believe was mentioned at some point during the thread)

Of the 30% of the players who chose to open, a 1NT opening edges out 1D

7 out of 16 players chose to open 1N
6 out of 16 chose to open 1C and rebid 2C
3 out of 16 chose to open 1D and rebid 2C

[the hog]

hrothgar, on 2013-November-15, 09:35, said:

FWIW, I posted this hand as a poll on Bridgewinner's yesterday.

The thread is available at http://bridgewinners...cj=82460#c82460

Few quick observations.

70% of the respondents stated that they preferred to pass rather than make any kind of opening. (This was without including a statement that the pair plays a conservative opening style which I believe was mentioned at some point during the thread)

Of the 30% of the players who chose to open, a 1NT opening edges out 1D

7 out of 16 players chose to open 1N
6 out of 16 chose to open 1C and rebid 2C
3 out of 16 chose to open 1D and rebid 2C

Well Pass is obvious unless playing LOBs, isn't it Richard? I lol at those who think this is an opening in a standard system.

[Trinidad]

the hog, on 2013-November-14, 23:52, said:

Rik, who condemned anybody for opening 1C?

the hog, on 2013-November-15, 22:41, said:

I lol at those who think this is an opening in a standard system.

This brings back memories.

Rik

[the hog]

Firstly this post was made today after you posted your initial response. Are you prescient? Secondly how is lol condeming. Look up the dictionary definition. I do find those who open this hand worthy of mirth, not condemnation. You will note that i said i hope that they continue to do so.