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Posted 2005-January-10, 10:56

Imps vs field, world class declarer (nominated for best declarer 3 times, lol). None vuln you hold

♠ xx
♥ xx
♦ Kxxxx
♣ KTxx

Bidding goes:

LHO RHO
........1♥
1♠....3♥
4♥....pass

What is your lead?
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Posted 2005-January-10, 11:05

♣. Trump is 2nd choice. I suppose the K wins the 2004 BOLS Brilliancy prize? :P

Spade and diamond are my last choice.
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Posted 2005-January-10, 11:25

Phil said it well.
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Posted 2005-January-10, 11:29

Castanheira is declarer I guess, I would lead my longest suit against this bidding.
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Posted 2005-January-10, 11:30

Yeah, 3rd best ♣ for me
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Posted 2005-January-10, 11:58

I would lead a trump but guess this is wrong or else the hand would not be posted.
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Posted 2005-January-10, 12:16

whereagles, on Jan 10 2005, 04:56 PM, said:

Imps vs field, world class declarer (nominated for best declarer 3 times, lol). None vuln you hold

♠ xx
♥ xx
♦ Kxxxx
♣ KTxx

Bidding goes:

LHO RHO
........1♥
1♠....3♥
4♥....pass

What is your lead?

any leads can be right in this hand.
For example, spade lead can be right when partner holds SAK or SAQ and dummy holds K or SA or K and HA, declarer holds three spades. in this case, you can get 2 spades, one ruff and one possible minor suit king.
D can be right when partner holds DA or DQ and some sort not stopper in spades or Ax doubleton to get a ruff.
C can be right when partner holds honors.
trump can be right when partner holds good spade stopper and dummy holds shortness in D or C. When you hold about 5-9 HCP, it's very hard to find the best lead and that's the range that you most often find a bad lead.
If you really ask me for some opinion, I might lead a club because club is likely to be the source of defensive tricks. You usually can't get rich even if partner holds a diamond honor. but if he has club honors, you may cash two or even 3 tricks immediately. Also, trump lead is probably too passive for this hand, against game contract, one should usually find aggressive leads unless he has a very good reason.
Spade lead probably asks too much from partner, but when it's right, it can be very right.
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Posted 2005-January-10, 12:36

I vote for Diamond. Pd could have Ax or Qxx. I think we may need to attack before they set the spade for discarding.
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Posted 2005-January-10, 12:43

Low club. They will have enough hcp to make this if given a chance. Don't go passive on a hand like this.

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Posted 2005-January-10, 15:09

club, looks right to attack.
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Posted 2005-January-11, 05:23

i wouldn't lead a trump or a spade, so that leaves the other two... my instinct is saying lead a diamond, so that's what i'd do
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Posted 2005-January-11, 05:44

club King:))



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Posted 2005-January-11, 05:53

No passive lead on that one.

♣ because it is likeky the source of quick tricks
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Posted 2005-January-11, 13:06

Well If we are going to defeat this we need some values in pd's hand. I won't lead dummy suit nor a trump on this bidding. I think the lead has to be a minor so I lead a low diamond, if the lead is bad the 5 card diamond suit may suggest a possible discard won't be useful for declarer.

Low diamond, I'm 100% sure it's not the right lead but I lead what I'd have lead at the table...
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Posted 2005-January-11, 15:36

Without the club Ten, I will lead a diamond frpm the five card suit as you did luis. The club TEN makes the club lead more attractive, as just queen is enough to help us establish two club tricks if partner has an entry (and if he doesn't we are not beating this) and declarer has club jack. We need more than diamond queen in partners hand to set up diamond tricks. I will admit, either can easily be right here.

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Posted 2005-January-12, 12:54

Thx all. As most of you, I also led an attacking club.

That wasn't the best move as dummy came up with

Qxxxxx
Kx
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Qxxxx

The club queen held and that was the 10th trick. oooops...

Later on pard, who had AKTx, of spades said I should have lead a trump. I replied saying I would put the hand to an expert panel and that 95% of the people would lead a diamond or a club... and I was right :(
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Posted 2005-January-12, 13:15

whereagles, on Jan 12 2005, 06:54 PM, said:

Thx all. As most of you, I also led an attacking club.

That wasn't the best move as dummy came up with

Qxxxxx
Kx
--
Qxxxx

The club queen held and that was the 10th trick. oooops...

Later on pard, who had AKTx, of spades said I should have lead a trump. I replied saying I would put the hand to an expert panel and that 95% of the people would lead a diamond or a club... and I was right :(

I don't think here is an "expert" panel though. It's at most an advanced panel. C or D lead can be slightly better to some, but it doesn't mean it has to be expert's choice.
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Posted 2005-January-12, 19:56

i would not lead a trump, but then i expected dummy's spades to be better... a diamond didn't hurt anything that i can see...
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