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#1 User is offline   yunling 

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Posted 2013-May-28, 06:45



Now X is takeout, but I fear of pard's passing;
2 may lose a fit;
Pass is forcing, but I wonder hand can be shown properly after it.
So, what to do then?
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Posted 2013-May-28, 06:56

View Postyunling, on 2013-May-28, 06:45, said:



Now X is takeout, but I fear of pard's passing;
2 may lose a fit;
Pass is forcing, but I wonder hand can be shown properly after it.
So, what to do then?

I would bid 2 diamonds. However, I would be a little more comfortable if I knew more about the methods.While pass is forcing, what are partner's options, especially with, say, a weak 3334?

Are there inferences on his failure to do anything over the redouble?
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Posted 2013-May-28, 07:22

I would double. Partner will not sit with a weak hand and without intermed. trumps against a one suiter..
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Posted 2013-May-28, 08:21

i have MAYBE 3 defensive tricks will not be happy playing
2CX unless they are down 2 so p needs MAYBE 4 tricks
I do not like my odds failure to x now will limit my hand
which is good but may far too often result in 2c getting
passed out for a poor score. The best course seems
to be to bid

2d

At least your side has a fair chance of winning the partial
war and who knows maybe p will be able to bid 2h or 2s
game can still be reached. Enamy bidding is deigned to
disrupt smooth communications do not be overy concerned
about missing a 44 spade fit at the expense of losing the
entire hand.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 08:32

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Knowing the downside but having pard respond 2 to a double with 4-4 in the majors is too annoying to let happen. Reverse my majors and I'll double.
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Posted 2013-May-31, 21:01

View Postmikeh, on 2013-May-28, 06:56, said:

I would bid 2 diamonds. However, I would be a little more comfortable if I knew more about the methods.While pass is forcing, what are partner's options, especially with, say, a weak 3334?

Are there inferences on his failure to do anything over the redouble?


Over 2C, dbl is takeout, new suit shows a one-suiter hand, passing is either penalty oriented or a two-suiter hand.Thus a weak 3334 at the balancing seat will dbl.
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Posted 2013-June-04, 05:39

View Postyunling, on 2013-May-31, 21:01, said:

Over 2C, dbl is takeout, new suit shows a one-suiter hand, passing is either penalty oriented or a two-suiter hand.Thus a weak 3334 at the balancing seat will dbl.

First of all, you did not address Mike's last question at all:

View Postmikeh, on 2013-May-28, 06:56, said:

Are there inferences on his failure to do anything over the redouble?

Secondly, your suggestion that partner will pass over 2 with a two-suited hand suggests that you should perhaps look at back at the auction being asked about:

(1NT) - X - (XX) - P;
2 - P - P - ?

If you were simply repeating our options then you did not address any of Mike's questions as far as I can see.

Forget the hand in the OP (South) for a moment. Describe what partner's (North's) pass over the redouble meant and what partner can do in the above auction (were we (South) to pass 2).
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Posted 2013-June-06, 05:27

Sorry for causing confusion here.

There is not much information in north's pass over rdbl, which just denies a very distributional hand.(So he cannot have a 6 carder)

If it goes 2C P P, north's option would be
dbl:2+
2:takeout
2/:some two-suiter
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