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Posted 2013-June-06, 09:05


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Posted 2013-June-06, 10:42

Matchpoints or IMPs ?

(2)-3-P-4
4-4
4N-5
6-7
P/7 depending on form of scoring.
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Posted 2013-June-06, 13:12

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-June-06, 10:42, said:

Matchpoints or IMPs ?

(2)-3-P-4
4-4
4N-5
6-7
P/7 depending on form of scoring.




good auction but almost any time 7c or 7s will make so will
7n and that assuming p has no extra values.
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Posted 2013-June-06, 14:57

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-June-06, 10:42, said:

Matchpoints or IMPs ?

(2)-3-P-4
4-4
4N-5
6-7
P/7 depending on form of scoring.


Can you please explain the meanings of the bids before i write something that i may regret ? :) (After 3)
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Posted 2013-June-06, 16:18

View PostMrAce, on 2013-June-06, 14:57, said:

Can you please explain the meanings of the bids before i write something that i may regret ? :) (After 3)

It's unclear whether 4 is natural or a cue with spades agreed, depends on your exact agreements about 3, for us it and both 4red bids are cues as the spade suit is about as bad as it can be. Keycard in spades follows then the K is shown, at which point N suggests 7 as a contract.

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good auction but almost any time 7c or 7s will make so will
7n and that assuming p has no extra values.


S knows this as he's looking at J, if the suit was KQ10xxxx, 7 is better as you can ruff a spade and deal with Jxxx.
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Posted 2013-June-07, 07:51

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-June-06, 16:18, said:

It's unclear whether 4 is natural or a cue with spades agreed, depends on your exact agreements about 3, for us it and both 4red bids are cues as the spade suit is about as bad as it can be. Keycard in spades follows then the K is shown, at which point N suggests 7 as a contract.




If spades are agreed by 4, i would have just asked RKCB by N hand to make things simple.

3--4
4--4NT
5--5
6--7NT


But i personally don't like the idea of everything being cue for spades. For example take out K from S hand and you probably don't wanna be in 6. I'd raher want to play 6. Assume S holds

KQJ9xx
Axx
AKx
x

I really don't like the topics where we know both hands. It is hard not to let it affect our judgement in constructing an auction.


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Posted 2013-June-07, 08:10

View PostMrAce, on 2013-June-07, 07:51, said:

If spades are agreed by 4, i would have just asked RKCB by N hand to make things simple.

3--4
4--4NT
5--5
6--7NT


NO - unless I'm playing very high class MPs, I want to be in 7 opposite KQ10xxxx, Ax, Ax, Kx as in most of my local clubs I will get a stone cold zero for 7N-1 if the spades misbehave and 90%+ for 7=. It must be the hand with J that chooses 7N hence N's buckpassing 5 bid in my auction.

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But i personally don't like the idea of everything being cue for spades. For example take out K from S hand and you probably don't wanna be in 6. I'd raher want to play 6. Assume S holds

KQJ9xx
Axx
AKx
x


Agreed, there are good and bad hands for any system, and this one is bad for mine, but we play 3 as a good enough suit that a very large percentage of the time, that is the denomination in which we'll play, and strong enough that cue bids are quite likely.
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