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5602 at the 5 level

Poll: 5602 at the 5 level (17 member(s) have cast votes)

What is your call?

  1. Pass (1 votes [5.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  2. double (15 votes [88.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 88.24%

  3. 5♦ (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 5♥ (1 votes [5.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  5. 5♠ (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 5NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 6♣ (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Zelandakh 

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Posted 2013-June-11, 05:09

MP; white against red; average club level opponents.

MP


What would you have done?
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Posted 2013-June-11, 05:11

X and bid 5H over 5D.
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Posted 2013-June-11, 07:24

View Postthe hog, on 2013-June-11, 05:11, said:

X and bid 5H over 5D.



ditto
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Posted 2013-June-11, 07:44

Zel, if this has any resemblance to your previous posts on hands from your local club, I sit in fear to find out what you actually did at the table. I will wait patiently until you post the full hand with the actual bidding. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2013-June-11, 08:27

View PostWinstonm, on 2013-June-11, 07:24, said:

ditto

ditto for me also
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Posted 2013-June-11, 08:55

If this was at the club, you probably bid 5♠ :rolleyes:
also what the hog said
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Posted 2013-June-12, 03:44

View Post32519, on 2013-June-11, 07:44, said:

Zel, if this has any resemblance to your previous posts on hands from your local club, I sit in fear to find out what you actually did at the table. I will wait patiently until you post the full hand with the actual bidding. :rolleyes:

I actually doubled, intending to bid 5♥ over 5♦. What actually happened is that partner passed 5♣X (with ♠T6 / ♥KT75 / ♦98763 / ♣54) and we failed to orchestrate a diamond ruff, scoring -750 and 2/16 MPs. My double came in for a fair degree of criticism so I decided to poll for a second opinion.
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Posted 2013-June-12, 03:51

I hate double. 5♥ with this hand I guess, make it a bit stronger and I'd risk 6♣. I am not willing to risk partner passing or bidding 6♦.
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Posted 2013-June-12, 10:27

View PostZelandakh, on 2013-June-11, 05:09, said:

MP; white against red; average club level opponents.
MP
IMO Double (clutching the appropriate finger of your left hand) = 10, 5♥ = 8, 5N = 5, 5♠ = 4, 6♣ = 3.
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Posted 2013-June-12, 12:28

let me guess, if you X, partner with Kxxx, Kxx, xxxx, xx passes and it makes with you making 5♥ on a club lead .
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Posted 2013-June-12, 14:11

Pass of the x is appalling. 5H would also be very poor. Get a new partner.


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Posted 2013-June-12, 14:53

Deleted, thought the Hog was replying to my post
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Posted 2013-June-12, 15:00

View PostZelandakh, on 2013-June-12, 03:44, said:

I actually doubled, intending to bid 5♥ over 5♦. What actually happened is that partner passed 5♣X (with ♠T6 / ♥KT75 / ♦98763 / ♣54) and we failed to orchestrate a diamond ruff, scoring -750 and 2/16 MPs. My double came in for a fair degree of criticism so I decided to poll for a second opinion.

I think X is right, but partner will pass it on a lot of hands where it's right to bid.

I can see partner's point, you might have been dealt AKQx, QJxx, KQJx, x or similar where 5♣ is going down and you're not making anything at the 5 level.
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Posted 2013-June-13, 02:54

View Postthe hog, on 2013-June-12, 14:11, said:

Pass of the x is appalling. 5H would also be very poor. Get a new partner.

I am quite happy with my partner, thank you. We are not pretending to be experts and I certainly make worse calls every session. You must go through many partners if you are so critical of their 5 level decisions even when they reach the (DD) par contract.
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Posted 2013-June-13, 03:45

I think double is poor. Well actually i think if you double then bid 5♥ with this hand in your methods then your methods are poor. We need double and bid to show stronger hands.

Its 5♥ or nothing and its not nothing.
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