[EarlPurple]

I'm thinking of having a series of "exhibition" matches, hopefully team-games at BBO, where non-natural and even experimental systems can be used, and we can watch them in progress and see how they work. Hopefully these matches will attract a lot of kibitzers. I'm also hoping that the use of them can lead to better bridge education for everyone, both watching the match and those using the systems and defending against them.

I would like there to be at least one pair to be using non-natural methods at each table. The match should be set up in advance, and the pairs would have to post (in here) what methods they will be playing so their opponents will have time to look and prepare a defence to them.

How to get partnerships together to try out experimental systems is difficult. Perhaps those who have one and want to find a partner to play it with should advertise in the "partners sought" forum - under a topic "looking for a partner to play my system". Maybe some players here will volunteer. After all, the matches are really for both exhibition and for learning, and there are no prizes for winning nor any penalty for losing.

As a general rule, I would like to say we will allow players to look at their system notes during the bidding and play. Doing such would not be considered cheating. However if they reach undiscussed territory they must do their best and no table-talk will be allowed.

Any partnerships, once formed, please put yourselves forward and we can start sorting out times for these matches.

[scoob]

i think my f2f partner and i would like to get in on this. i'll have to double check with his schedule, though - traditionally in the range of 5pm-8pm Eastern time (New York) works for us with more flexibility on the weekends.

there's a copy of our system here

[pclayton]

scoob, on Nov 16 2004, 09:27 AM, said:

i think my f2f partner and i would like to get in on this.  i'll have to double check with his schedule, though - traditionally in the range of 5pm-8pm Eastern time (New York) works for us with more flexibility on the weekends.

there's a copy of our system here

Scoob, you check out the big ♦ system that Garrod / Shore play for the US junior team. It was developed by my friend Adam Meyerson. If you're interested, I'll get a copy of the notes.

[scoob]

pclayton, on Nov 16 2004, 11:30 AM, said:

Scoob, you check out the big ♦ system that Garrod / Shore play for the US junior team. It was developed by my friend Adam Meyerson. If you're interested, I'll get a copy of the notes.

I'd love that, thank you!

[hrothgar]

Happy to participate... I suspect that Free or The_Hog would be willing to play as well.

Whats the goal... Naturalists versus Scientists or complete chaos?

[inquiry]

hrothgar, on Nov 16 2004, 01:37 PM, said:

Happy to participate... I suspect that Free or The_Hog would be willing to play as well.

Whats the goal... Naturalists versus Scientists or complete chaos?

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at least one pair to be using non-natural methods at each table

Suggest not looking for naturalist versus scientist

[EarlPurple]

I'd be happy if one pair are a "we can smash your system" pair, but I don't like having to constrain either pair or team to Natural so much that they can't even use Stayman, which is what the Natural vs Science matches were.

Obviously, whoever is playing will be happy to play against non-standard systems even if they don't intend to play it themselves, though if we can fill the tables with all non-standard (prefer that to non-natural) system pairs, all the better. Doesn't have to mean a strong club or strong diamond. Could be a system where opening 1-level bids show less than the normal opening range, or 1♣ denies a 4-card major while 1♦ promises one, or similar.

It's good that I've had so much response already.

[hrothgar]

OK, depending on timing, you have at least on MOSCITO pair...
In theory, it might even be possible to arrange for a MOSCITO team...

[Cowology]

hrothgar, on Nov 16 2004, 06:32 PM, said:

OK, depending on timing, you have at least on MOSCITO pair...
In theory, it might even be possible to arrange for a MOSCITO team...

This sounds like a great idea. I'm personaly very interested in watching Moscito played since just this past week I was inquiring about it and have just looked over quite a few notes on it. Nice to see the practical application. And anytime I can watch Scoob play his crazy ass system I'm all for it.

[luke warm]

i'll check with mike, we play the weiss club... however, this could be potentially embarrasing since i haven't yet learned the nuances of the system... i'd like to give it a shot tho

[scoob]

luke warm, on Nov 16 2004, 06:21 PM, said:

i'll check with mike, we play the weiss club... however, this could be potentially embarrasing since i haven't yet learned the nuances of the system... i'd like to give it a shot tho

you can relax; if llammas and i have an off day, we're usually good for 40 or 50 imps to our opps

[Gerben47]

I could play too, either the Magic Diamond or my own 2-way pass system.

[Free]

hrothgar, on Nov 16 2004, 06:37 PM, said:

Happy to participate... I suspect that Free or The_Hog would be willing to play as well.

Whats the goal... Naturalists versus Scientists or complete chaos?

Since my confirmating post is deleted, I'll confirm in a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonger post:

Djeez!

[EarlPurple]

In theory we have 4 pairs already. We'll need to confirm who is playing in our first match, arrange a time and ensure everyone's system notes are posted.

Kibitzers should have the system notes available too. It is, after all, primarily an exhibition match.

[luke warm]

scoob, on Nov 17 2004, 04:37 AM, said:

luke warm, on Nov 16 2004, 06:21 PM, said:

i'll check with mike, we play the weiss club... however, this could be potentially embarrasing since i haven't yet learned the nuances of the system... i'd like to give it a shot tho

you can relax; if llammas and i have an off day, we're usually good for 40 or 50 imps to our opps

heheh... then we can tie for last

[EarlPurple]

We need 3 pairs. We provisionally have one, luke_warm and his partner.
Then we need to talk some times.

[hrothgar]

EarlPurple, on Nov 23 2004, 12:22 AM, said:

We need 3 pairs. We provisionally have one, luke_warm and his partner.
Then we need to talk some times.

I'm available to play with either The_Hog or Free

I'm pretty flexible with respect to timing, however, both of them have lives

[luke warm]

for me, any weeknight at 8 eastern or any weekend... however, i'll check with mike

[scoob]

spoke to llammas, and he's game.

currently we're available like this:

thursdays & fridays: 5-8pm
saturdays & sundays: noon-8pm

(eastern times)