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Looking for Non-Natural system players for "exhibition" games on BBO

#41 User is offline   scoob 

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Posted 2004-December-06, 15:04

i don't know what CET is, but llammas and I are good on sundays up until about 8 eastern (new york) time
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Posted 2004-December-06, 16:44

inquiry, on Dec 6 2004, 10:25 PM, said:

hrothgar, on Dec 6 2004, 03:21 PM, said:

Free, on Dec 5 2004, 01:02 PM, said:

sunday 12/12 is fine for me, BUT only in the evening, and not too late...  From around 19h till 23h CET is ok for me.

I'm free whenever on the 12th

I would, however, like to understand the lineups and who/what we'll be competing against

more specifically, I want time to develop defenses...

Oh, I am sure with just alerts at the table, you will be able to handle any artificial bids the oppenents throw at you that you have never heard of before. hehehehehe

Maybe they will suggest some recommended defenses for you. :-)

Might be able with a regular partner, however, Free and I play together once a week.
If The_hog were playing, I'd have more confidence [He and I play VERY rarely, but seem in synch a lot of the time]

more importantly, I don't that watching a bunch of people flail arround with constant bidding misunderstandings makes ofr interesting bridge
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Posted 2004-December-06, 17:05

I can play the following week if you wan't to do it again.

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Posted 2004-December-06, 17:48

hrothgar, on Dec 7 2004, 12:44 AM, said:

more importantly, I don't that watching a bunch of people flail arround with constant bidding misunderstandings makes ofr interesting bridge

who exactly are you talking about? and what defenses do you recommend against moscito?
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Posted 2004-December-06, 18:28

luke warm, on Dec 7 2004, 02:48 AM, said:

hrothgar, on Dec 7 2004, 12:44 AM, said:

more importantly, I don't that watching a bunch of people flail arround with constant bidding misunderstandings makes ofr interesting bridge

who exactly are you talking about? and what defenses do you recommend against moscito?

I was talking about everyone quite frankly

As for suggested defenses, I've always felt that it was assine that people need to provide defenses to their own openings.

1. Players often have blind spots regarding flaws with their pet methods
2. Players have little/no incentive to develop good defenses

Either way, you aren't going to get what you want. I'll note in passing that in Sweden, the National Bridge Organization prepares dictionaries of suggested defenses to a wide variety of methods which they make freely available to all members...

With this said and done

I recommend keeping it very simple versus the transfer opening.

For example, over the 1 opening, I'd recommend:

X = "Standard" 1 overcall
1 = However you normally treat a Takeout Double of a canape style 1 opeing
1NT+ = As if we had opened 1

You really need a good defense versus the 2 and 2 openings
Over 2 I'd recommend some like the following:

(2) - 4 = 5+ Hearts and 5+ Spades
(2) - 4 = 5+ Clubs, 5+ in either major, game forcing values
(2) - 3NT = To play, typically based on a running suit
(2) - 3 = 17-19 HCP, strong 6 card suit
(2) - 3 = 17-19 HCP, strong 6 card suit
(2) - 3 = 17+ HCP, weak in Diamonds, treat as a takeout double
(2) - 3 = 5+ CLubs, ~ 12-16 HCP
(2) - 2NT = 5+ Hearts, ~ 12-16 HCP
(2) - 2 = 5+ Spades, ~ 12-16 HCP
(2) - 2 = Takeout double of Diamonds, ~ 12-16 HCP

(2) - X = 15+ HCP, balanced or semi balanced
Hxx, AQ, AK or any 4 Diamonds
With significant extra strength, may hold xxx in Diamonds
Double establishes a forcing pass at the 2 level
Double followed by 2/2NT/3 do not promise extras
Double followed by 3+ promises extras

(2) - X - (2) - X = Penalty oriented, usually at least Hxx in Hearts
(2) - X - (2) - P - (P) - 2 = 4+ Spades, 15-17 HCP
(2) - X - (2) - P - (P) - 2NT = 15-17 Balanced, can't penalize them

(2) - X - (P - 2NT = Puppet to 3
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Posted 2004-December-06, 18:28

scoob, on Dec 6 2004, 10:04 PM, said:

i don't know what CET is, but llammas and I are good on sundays up until about 8 eastern (new york) time

CET = Central European Time
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  Posted 2004-December-06, 23:05

We'll play our strong diamond light opening system for this, assuming the laptop and wi-fi router's online by that date. We rather not play the "usual"; she said something to the effect of "I need some excitement in my life." :)
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Posted 2004-December-08, 12:09

CET is 6 hours ahead of EST so it looks like the best time would be around:

11am PST (Los Angeles)
2pm EST (New York)
7pm GMT (London)
8pm CET (Berlin)
9pm EET (Athens)

Can I assume that time and I hope everyone will be there. Maybe a few volunteer subs (now wouldn't that be exciting?)
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Posted 2004-December-10, 07:42

i've confirmed this time with llammas, and we'll be there
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Posted 2004-December-10, 07:44

I'll be there, and I suspect/hope Richard will be there as well ;)
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Posted 2004-December-10, 07:49

Free, on Dec 10 2004, 04:44 PM, said:

I'll be there, and I suspect/hope Richard will be there as well ;)

2:00 on Sunday works fine on this end...

Once again, I'd like advacned notice (preferably today) regarding the pair we'll be competing against and the methods that they are employing
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Posted 2004-December-10, 15:11

Are any pairs going to be playing Moscito? That's the system I would really like to see. :D
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Posted 2004-December-10, 15:14

Cowology, on Dec 11 2004, 12:11 AM, said:

Are any pairs going to be playing Moscito? That's the system I would really like to see. :D

Free and I will be playing MOSCITO
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Posted 2004-December-10, 15:31

we plan on being there... fwiw, here's a summary of opening bids

1c=16+ if flat, 17+ w/ major, or 18+ if minor-cntrl responses
1d/h/s= 2 suited hand, guaranteed canape unless clubs 2nd suit
1nt=12-15, 2c response is invitational puppet..2d is game force stayman
2c=3 suited, 11-16 (any 3 suits)
2d/h/s=one suited, 11-17, 6+
2nt=6+ clubs, 14-17
3c=6+ clubs, 11-14

after a 1 opening, the next highest bid is a relay looking for 2nd suit... it is not forcing
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Posted 2004-December-12, 11:25

i don't see any declarations of matches, but if you get stuck with us here's our notes:

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Posted 2004-December-12, 13:13

The time to play is now. Trying to round up the players (just in case they browse here).
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Posted 2004-December-13, 09:24

Did the exhibition match go off? How many people from here showed up to watch? I couldn't find any earlp's hands from yesterday, but found a match with free and hrogthar versus scoob and his partner. This was moscito versus big diamond (loghorn?). Was there another match?

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Posted 2004-December-13, 09:55

inquiry, on Dec 13 2004, 06:24 PM, said:

Did the exhibition match go off? How many people from here showed up to watch? I couldn't find any earlp's hands from yesterday, but found a match with free and hrogthar versus scoob and his partner. This was moscito versus big diamond (loghorn?). Was there another match?

Ben

The match went off as planned, with some delays due to last minute cancellations of some participants.

We had two tables with a mixture of Precision, Forcing Pass, some strong Diamond System, and MOSCITO. At times there were about 10-12 people watching
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Posted 2004-December-13, 12:17

Yeah, we had two matches, one of which when hrothgar interfered over our strong club on a 4333 3 count. Which caused us to go off in the (arctic) 6NT, when my partner played him to have one useful card....
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Posted 2004-December-13, 12:29

mr1303, on Dec 13 2004, 07:17 PM, said:

Yeah, we had two matches, one of which when hrothgar interfered over our strong club on a 4333 3 count. Which caused us to go off in the (arctic) 6NT, when my partner played him to have one useful card....

Hehehe, isn't my defense vs strong / great? :)

Btw, yesterday we used that same defense against nebulous 1 and 1 openings, without any problems! I think I'll continue this experiment for a while...
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