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Posted 2004-November-10, 22:05

All non.

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AQJ683
J9
QJ3

You open 2H, p raises to 4H, RHO bids 4S, all pass. The spotlight is on you.
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Posted 2004-November-10, 22:28

Blah.. process of elimination.

!) I am not leading a trump.
2) I am not leading a heart from the AQJ... parnter may or maynot have the king, but we are not going to get rich taking heart tricks. One at most is all we have coming to us.
3) A diamond might be right, but J9 is ackward to lead from, and to get the three trikcs outside of hearts we need, it is hard to believe leadng a diamond will hep us set up tricks
4) Club Queen. If partne rhas king or ACE, we might set up tow, potentiallly three tricks in clubs by attacking. PArtner will not have much, is it asking to much that he his hand is ATx of clubs, with king in dummy? Or Kxx with a spade or diamond trick (say diamond Qxx). Eeven doubleton Club ACE mihght allow four quick tricks if the king is in the pocket.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 02:06

club queen...no reason im just sure i would at the table.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 11:54

I would expect some comments like "Why didn't I open 1H, was I asleep?"

I also lead the club queen, seems clear.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2004-November-11, 12:01

♥A, then probably ♣Q, but they aren't guaranteed a spade fit... so after my opening lead i might be better able to judge whether or not forcing declarer to ruff hearts is better than some other continuation
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Posted 2004-November-11, 12:58

♦J will probably suggest the 10 which I don't have, ♣Q won't give away a trick probably.

♣Q
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Posted 2004-November-11, 14:04

Looks like one of Gran's lead problems on Bridge Today.

Q♣; Hard to see how heart A can be right with pard raising. Trump or ♦ accomplish nothing.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 15:47

true, the Q is a good lead and probably best... my thinking was based on the possibility of forcing declarer, say with dummy holding 2 spades and 3 or 4 hearts... even so, i doubt pard holds any hand that would cause declarer to lose control
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Posted 2004-November-11, 16:17

looks like a hand gran would open 2H too B)
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Posted 2004-November-11, 16:50

♥A.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 17:40

Jlall, on Nov 12 2004, 12:17 AM, said:

looks like a hand gran would open 2H too B)

now now justin heheh

i'd actually open it 2h also, but not if i was playing weak 2's... 2h for me (now) is 11-16, 6+, but without 4/6 (which is opened canape unless the 4 carder is clubs)
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Posted 2004-November-11, 18:22

Really Jimmy he would. They've bought into the Trent weak 2 idea where a weak 2 shows a good hand and a defensive trick or 2. They leave the ugly weak 2's for a multi 2♦ opening.
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Posted 2004-November-11, 20:54

ooooookkk... i read the trent 2 thread and (contrary to most here) was only mildly impressed
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Posted 2004-November-12, 00:51

Heck I wasn't even mildly impressed. Seems like a throwback to me.
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Posted 2004-November-12, 05:19

Pfff, if you want to open this, bid either 1♥ or 3♥, but certainly NOT 2♥, you're too strong imo.
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Posted 2004-November-15, 18:01

Those leading the Club Queen win a biscuit. The full hand:

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Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 2♥    Pass  4♥    4♠
 Pass  Pass  Pass  

HA H2 H4 H7
DJ DQ D2 D4

I think this hand is interesting on a number of levels. Firstly is the decision by South to bid 4 Spades. Secondly, kudos to Gerardo for not raising me with what must look like a very good hand opposite my 4S overcall. I suspect that many people would get overexcited with his hand.

The club Queen is the killing lead, but if West shifts to it at trick two it presents me with a guess, I must duck to bring home the contract. Giving the lead and Weak Two opening this should be no problem. however, it got me thinking. Say Wests hand is

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AQJ863
J9
AQx

And he opens 1 Heart, later finding himself on lead against 4 Spades. He leads the Heart Ace and now has the chance for a brilliancy. The Club Queen shift if probably the only one that sets the contract!
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