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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2004-November-13, 19:01

S - W - N - E
ps -ps -1♣ -1♦
1♥-1♠-3♥-ps
4♥-ps -ps -ps


The lead is the ♦6 that goes to Eastīs Ace.
East then swithes to the ♠10

Where does the ♥Q lie?.

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Oh actually you shouldnīt care :).
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Posted 2004-November-14, 05:50

Are you sure we dont need to find HQ? you have 2 spade and one diamond losers. There is no throw-in.

I think I will duck ST and see what is going on. If RHO could not continue spade, he rates to have singleton spade and I will play him for HQ.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 08:37

Good job, duck ♠10, and you get a ♣J switch, now you wonīt really need any guess at all.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 10:23

wait... i thought of that also, but what if west plays the ♠Q, thinking east had a stiff spade?
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Posted 2004-November-14, 10:44

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2004, 09:37 AM, said:

Good job, duck ♠10, and you get a ♣J switch, now you wonīt really need any guess at all.

Explain more pls, what are we doing after the J club switch ?
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Posted 2004-November-14, 11:39

luke warm, on Nov 14 2004, 04:23 PM, said:

wait... i thought of that also, but what if west plays the ♠Q, thinking east had a stiff spade?

Perhaps you can play some throw-in if west overtakes ST. Not perfect endplay, only partial here I think.
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Posted 2004-November-14, 15:15

After the ♣J switch you already know the exact distrribution

East has 1 spade obviously
East has 6 Diamonds, the bidding suggests it strongly, with 7 carder he woul hardly bid 1♦ then pass. Also consistent with ♦6 lead wich strongly suggests 4 cards.
East has 1 or 2 ♣ when switches to the ♣J

So East has 4 or 5♥, there is little you can do against 5♥, so assume he has 4.

Play ♥K in case the ♥Q is stiff offside, and when west plays its low singleton just make a finese, ♦ ruff, and a further finese makes your hand high.

Eastīs hand:

♠10
♥Q863
♦AQJ852
♣J3
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Posted 2004-November-14, 18:49

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2004, 04:15 PM, said:

East has 1 or 2 ♣ when switches to the ♣J

you need to play in stronger games.
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Posted 2004-November-15, 01:40

Jlall, on Nov 14 2004, 07:49 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2004, 04:15 PM, said:

East has 1 or 2 ♣ when switches to the ♣J

you need to play in stronger games.

Not sure.
Playing J from Jxx infront of AK is a good play , but playign J behind the AK doesnt seem so smart.
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Posted 2004-November-15, 01:42

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2004, 04:15 PM, said:

After the ♣J switch you already know the exact distrribution

East has 1 spade obviously
East has 6 Diamonds, the bidding suggests it strongly, with 7 carder he woul hardly bid 1♦ then pass. Also consistent with ♦6 lead wich strongly suggests 4 cards.
East has 1 or 2 ♣ when switches to the ♣J

So East has 4 or 5♥, there is little you can do against 5♥, so assume he has 4.

Play ♥K in case the ♥Q is stiff offside, and when west plays its low singleton just make a finese, ♦ ruff, and a further finese makes your hand high.

Eastīs hand:

♠10
♥Q863
♦AQJ852
♣J3

Thanks, thought you ment some kind of endplay when you said no need to guess.
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Posted 2004-November-15, 06:58

Jlall, on Nov 15 2004, 12:49 AM, said:

Fluffy, on Nov 14 2004, 04:15 PM, said:

East has 1 or 2 ♣ when switches to the ♣J

you need to play in stronger games.

Yeah well, maybe should had posted that the opponentīs level wasnīt really high, but anyway, I love to play at higher levels, but its often good to play at these levels when ther are good prices :lol:.
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Posted 2004-November-16, 09:21

ok I am East. After my ♠10 holds I next lead another diamond. Now what do you do?
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