[inquiry]

Scoring: MP

(1D) - P - (1S) - P
(2D) - P - ( P) - DBL
( P) - ? your bid

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You might consider the following "small" logics in picking your choice, or explain alternative reason for your choice. I would be interested, because I am fairly certain my F2F partner made the worse choice...but who knows.

Pass - he must know what he is doing and I have four D's - go for +200
2H - Pass? You got to be kidding me, I have four diamonds this is takeout so takeout
2S - Why didn't he bid over 1S? Surely he has spades
2NT - my diamonds will stop the bleedling
3C - well, I have an honor
Other

[whereagles]

Seems pard has a 44 c/h with around 10-11 points, and decided it wasn't strong enough to double 1S. I bid 2H now. Could be that pard is 4414 or similar and 2S is better, but 2H should also have some play, and it's not a certainty that pard has the 4414.

[Free]

Whereagles, you've probably heard of 'sandwich NT'? It's in this exact situation (1X - pass - 1Y - 1NT), and it shows the unbid suits with less than opening strength.

If you play this, he passed, so he'll probably have both Majors, NOT ♣ and ♥. With only ♥ he should've bid 2♥ now, penalty Dbl seems impossible, so it has to be both Majors.

It depends on my partner, but most of the time I'll just bid 2♥ with an unknown partner. With my F2F partner, I'll bid 2♠.

Pass is ridiculous imo... Any 2M bid seems acceptable, but I rather trust partner and bid 2♠.

[whereagles]

I assumed N/S were not playing sandwich NT, otherwise the bidding makes little sense to me (though both majors indeed has some logics).

[inquiry]

whereagles, on Nov 10 2004, 12:00 PM, said:

I assumed N/S were not playing sandwich NT, otherwise the bidding makes little sense to me (though both majors indeed has some logics).

I did say it was MY partner. Yes, of course we played sandwich NT.... but for the purpose of this question, feel free to ignore that possibility. It is not really essential for the answer anyway.

[Flame]

Do you bid 1NT with 4-4 ?
I always played double to show 4-4 and 1nt to show more
Anyway with a pickup partner i would assume he has 4-4 in the unbid suits and too weak for what he think he needed for previous round D, therefore i would bid 2h since with about 22 hcp they would make this 2d.
But with someone i trust not to have 4-4 in the unbid suits i would pass now.
Partner is more likely (looking at the bidding and my hand) to have clubs then spades, even if he has spades they doesnt spit well, opponnets are vul, partner can be strong(13-14 hcp would be nice) and 2d is a good bet, sure it wont always work but will i think its better then the guessing alternatives.

[flytoox]

I vote for 2S. Pd seems to have 4414, with h and c two suiter, he should act earlier.

[jtfanclub]

I don't think a 2♥ bid by partner rather than Xing should promise 5 (he didn't bid it the first time around, after all). So if my partner has four hearts, he also has enough strength that he can set this across any reasonable hand. And my hand is very reasonable.

I think my partner has the strongest hand at the table. I also think if we have an 8 card fit, it's in spades, and we've been forewarned about the bad break.

So I pass.

[the hog]

Pass is totally out of the question of course. I see the rationale for 2S, but don't bid 2S for a number of reasons, not the least that it may be confusing, it by passes 2h, and it is more likely to be doubled than a 2H bid.

2N is pretty hopeless; from where are the tricks coming?
2H for me.

[jtfanclub]

The_Hog, on Nov 10 2004, 05:39 PM, said:

2H for me.

Enjoy your 3-3 fit.

You should pay attention to the bidding more next time.

[the hog]

I don't make a habit of playing with idiots; I doubt Ben does either.

[HeartA]

2♥.

[pclayton]

You simply don't have enough information about this hand to pass. Pard can't find a call over 1♠...well, so? Takeout doubles should be taken out; and this 4-3-4-2 is no exception. -180 or -280 will make pard think twice about balancing again.

And where are our tricks against 2♦? We don't have a tap suit, and dummy's spades are probably good enough for a club pitch or 2.

At the San Diego regional a few years ago I played against Mike Cappelletti Jr. and Brad Campbell in the swiss - all vul. I held a red 5-5 and an opening hand. 1♥ by me, 1N by Brad, 2♦ by pard., pass by Mike. I pass, double by Brad, pass by pard, pass by Mike with a yarb. +580. They are making 2♠.

His argument was - we are just getting into more trouble if I bid. I didn't buy it then and I don't buy it now.

[tysen2k]

This is matchpoints. A good partner should balance with a much weaker hand than could be bid over 1S. He could easily be 4/4 in the rounded suits. My vote is for 2♥.

Tysen

[luke warm]

i voted for 2h... seems straightforward enough... also i'm not sure how partner would take 2s, he might look on it as a cue for either of the other 2 suits, especially w/o any discussion..

if pard bids 3h, i go to 4... if he bids 2s, i bid 3s, if he bids 3c i bid 3h... but he knows already that i was forced to bid, so if he continues i have to assume his hand is better than i originally thought

[Antoine Fourrière]

2♠. Partner doesn't have two more hearts than spades.

[Gerben47]

2♠. Partner rates to have one more spade than heart and I do too.

[Fluffy]

2♥, it will often be a 3-3, but in doesn´t have to be a bad contract anyway.

[helium]

2 H