BBO Discussion Forums: Game with zero points - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Game with zero points A spin-off from another thread

#1 User is offline   nikos59 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 278
  • Joined: 2003-May-17

Posted 2004-October-18, 13:10

In another thread, on the topic of zero-point opening bids, I had
facetiously suggested that since it is possible to make game on
zero points combined, one might miss a cold game by passing
zero-point hands. Another poster could not believe that a game
is makeable on zero points combined, so here is an example:





The hand is taken (appropriately!) from BaseIII, a DOS program constructed
by no other than our Fred Gitelman. NS make 4S by establishing hearts.

This is obviously constructed. At the table, EW just might muster their courage
and find something higher their way, perhaps 7NT, unless they are
Eustachians, of course!

I have written a book on Famous Bridge Records, and the lowest-point game
(real-life, not constructed) I have found is on 9 points (by Skid Simon and Gray). Any better records in BBO perhaps?

Nikos
0

#2 User is offline   mikestar 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 913
  • Joined: 2003-August-18
  • Location:California, USA

Posted 2004-October-18, 14:02

The fairly well known 5 HCP grand slam:


0

#3 User is offline   Gerben47 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 428
  • Joined: 2003-October-27

Posted 2004-October-18, 16:09

I remember bidding a making 5♣ once on a combined 8-count but our opponents did not let us play it. The auction was:

(2♣ strong) 3♣ (3♦) 5♣
(5♦) pass (pass) pass

It did not seem the right time to make the cheap save in 6♣ because the bid of 8♣ over 7<not-clubs> would not have been allowed.

Anyway, I feared a ♣ lead would concede a ruff and sluff so I led something else and 13 tricks were claimed.

Our hands were:

x
x
xxxxx
Jxxxxx

xxxx
Jxx
-
AQxxxx

I guess the problem is not bidding the game but to get opponents with a combined 32-count to allow you to play your game contract.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do!
0

#4 User is offline   EarlPurple 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 439
  • Joined: 2003-December-30
  • Location:London

Posted 2004-October-21, 17:55

Get West to play it in 7 of a major and lightner-double for a diamond lead. (Though obviously if you double West in 7♥ his partner might pull it to 7♠, but at least they can't run to 7NT.
You can't keep a good man down
0

#5 User is offline   EarlPurple 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 439
  • Joined: 2003-December-30
  • Location:London

Posted 2004-October-21, 17:57

In the initial hand posted only South can make 4♠. North is defeated on a diamond lead ruffed by West.
You can't keep a good man down
0

#6 User is offline   nikos59 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 278
  • Joined: 2003-May-17

Posted 2004-October-22, 00:19

True, but since NS are playing 5-card majors it is South
who opened 1S.
Opening 1S on 10987 (North) is not recommended :)
0

#7 User is offline   Free 

  • mmm Duvel
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,728
  • Joined: 2003-July-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Belgium
  • Interests:Duvel, Whisky

Posted 2004-October-22, 02:52

nikos59, on Oct 18 2004, 08:10 PM, said:

In another thread, on the topic of zero-point opening bids, I had
facetiously suggested that since it is possible to make game on
zero points combined, one might miss a cold game by passing
zero-point hands. Another poster could not believe that a game
is makeable on zero points combined, so here is an example:





The hand is taken (appropriately!) from BaseIII, a DOS program constructed
by no other than our Fred Gitelman. NS make 4S by establishing hearts.

This is obviously constructed. At the table, EW just might muster their courage
and find something higher their way, perhaps 7NT, unless they are
Eustachians, of course!

I have written a book on Famous Bridge Records, and the lowest-point game
(real-life, not constructed) I have found is on 9 points (by Skid Simon and Gray). Any better records in BBO perhaps?

Nikos

VERY nice hand! I'm convinced :)
"It may be rude to leave to go to the bathroom, but it's downright stupid to sit there and piss yourself" - blackshoe
0

#8 User is offline   epeeist 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 197
  • Joined: 2004-July-14

Posted 2004-October-22, 20:16

Victor Mollo's books have some interesting hands -- to say the least! One which I was reminded of was a 7NT hand with very few points. I won't give the hand, which is in "Destiny at Bay", but I'll put the trick in hidden text below.

Spoiler

0

#9 User is offline   EarlPurple 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 439
  • Joined: 2003-December-30
  • Location:London

Posted 2004-October-27, 08:52

N/S don't need any points at all.



West leads a low spade and declarer takes 3 rounds while East throws 2 heart honours and a club. (Dummy throws diamonds)

Now declarer crosses to dummy taking 3 rounds of diamonds (East follows low, of course) while West also throws 2 top hearts and a club. (Declarer throws spades)

Next declarer cashes his 3 heart tricks and the opps part with their remaining club honour on the last round.

And now our clubs are good and we can enjoy 4 rounds of them.
You can't keep a good man down
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users