pclayton, on Oct 13 2004, 08:52 PM, said:
luke warm, on Oct 13 2004, 04:23 PM, said:
two of you have said you'd bid playing keri... if partner shows 4 spades, do you invite with 3 or bid 4?
if i judged this hand worth an invite (i don't), and if i played my present system over a strong nt, the bidding would be:
1nt : 2c
2d : 2h*
2h= <4 hearts, might have 4 spades.. opener bids 2s with 4 else 2nt... is this much different from keri? thx
Partner doesnt actually ever 'show' when I invite with this hand. Its just 1N - 2
♣ - 2
♦ - 2
♠, which shows 4 or 5 spades an an invite. Partner's rebids:
Pass - minimum w/ 3 spades
2N - minimum w/o 3 spades
3
♣ - useful 4432, but minimum
3
♦ - maximum with 4333
3
♥ - max with 5 hearts w/o 3 spades
3
♠ - invite with 4 spades
3N - max w/o 4 spades
4
♠ - max with 4 spades
Cannot opener pass 2S with a minimum and 4 card support, in Keri? I suppose that he is under considerable pressure to bid 3S with 4 card support, given doubt over whether responder has 4 or 5.
Like Luke Warm, I commit to 2NT when you have only a 4-3 Spade fit and opener is minimum. In the long term 2S is likely to be better, but not by a lot, and in the short term it could go either way (or there may be no advantage either way).
Where we appear to gain over Keri is that we absolutely commit to 2S rather than 3S when there is an 8 card fit and opener is rejecting the game try.
And I get to play in 2S when you have a 5-2 Spade fit. Presumably with Keri opener has to pull to 2NT, as 2S on a possible 4-2 fit does not reckon to gain.
To answer the original question, I invite with this hand. That Jack is worth more than it might be elsewhere. 50% of the time it is going to be worth a Queen.
Cannot opener pass 2S with a minimum and 4 card support, in Keri?
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