[jillybean]

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[wank]

i presume 4♥ is in there as a joke.

i don't want to play game if i can avoid it. obviously i don't want to play slam.

i'll try 3♦ - that should be enough to buy it as the opps seem to have skipped the lessons on overcalls

[Fluffy]

I assume 2♦ is minimum opening values for you.

You are off 5 keycards ♦AK ♣AKQ, and also ♥A and or ♠K might substitute cards in clubs. This means that slam is possible althou unlikelly.

I'd try splinter, better if 3♥ is splinter, leaves you more room. I expect to end up in 5♦ 80% of the time at least.

[ggwhiz]

I might try 2♠ likely to be followed by 5♦.

Sounds like a notrump try and if pard accepts (♥ cards) I'll bid 5♦. If they don't I really want to bid 6♦.

[jillybean]

sorry, should have made the option 3♥, splinter.

[jmcw]

Fluffy, on 2011-October-15, 15:28, said:

I assume 2♦ is minimum opening values for you....
......I'd try splinter, better if 3♥ is splinter, leaves you more room. I expect to end up in 5♦ 80% of the time at least.

Indeed 3♥ should be a splinter, cannot imagine it being anything else.

Thats the bid I would make, and I'm passing 3NT.

[aguahombre]

Disregard: This hand is a total crapshoot. Too much of partner's stuff is in diamonds by necessity to do anything scientific if she is minimum.

[the hog]

wank, on 2011-October-15, 15:27, said:

i presume 4♥ is in there as a joke.

i don't want to play game if i can avoid it. obviously i don't want to play slam.

i'll try 3♦ - that should be enough to buy it as the opps seem to have skipped the lessons on overcalls

Have you misread the problem? You don't want to play game cannot be right.
I will bid 3H. I am sorely tempted to bid 5D though as I expect 3H will incur a x and some competition.

[Hanoi5]

I wonder if splintering might influence them to sacrifice, even though they haven't entered. Partner's support implicates he doesn't have much on the side (AKQJ3 are missing and partner has 4 of them, what else can s/he have?). I think 5♦ is enough, I'll just punt to that.

[Cyberyeti]

wank, on 2011-October-15, 15:27, said:

i presume 4♥ is in there as a joke.

i don't want to play game if i can avoid it. obviously i don't want to play slam.

i'll try 3♦ - that should be enough to buy it as the opps seem to have skipped the lessons on overcalls

I do want to play game, slam can be good (x, xxx, AQJx, AQ10xx) but is unlikely. I don't want to splinter as opps clearly have a massive double fit in the majors and it might wake them up, so I will bid 5♦.

If partner has K, KJx, KQJx, xxxxx I'm taking a small bath, but I can't believe either opp can double for penalties, and at most tables opps may well be playing a making part score or game in the majors.

[kgr]

Hanoi5, on 2011-October-15, 19:43, said:

I wonder if splintering might influence them to sacrifice, even though they haven't entered. Partner's support implicates he doesn't have much on the side (AKQJ3 are missing and partner has 4 of them, what else can s/he have?). I think 5♦ is enough, I'll just punt to that.

Cyberyeti, on 2011-October-16, 04:11, said:

I do want to play game, slam can be good (x, xxx, AQJx, AQ10xx) but is unlikely. I don't want to splinter as opps clearly have a massive double fit in the majors and it might wake them up, so I will bid 5♦.

If partner has K, KJx, KQJx, xxxxx I'm taking a small bath, but I can't believe either opp can double for penalties, and at most tables opps may well be playing a making part score or game in the majors.

I agree with this

[helene_t]

Are we playing some nebulous club system so p could be [4342] or maybe even [4441]? Or does p think inverted minors apply here? Not trying to be smart but I just don't understand how opps can be silent with 19-20 cards in the majors and 20-23 HCPs between them.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

6D.

You have a double fit, I doubt that you can construct a sensible auction.

If 3H is a splinter, than this may be your best bid, ... 3H is a splinter,
hence bid it, followed by 4H, but you still will have to guess.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mcphee]

I am very surprised to see things like "I do not want to play slam". This raise is 100% 4 card support, and that is my 8 card suit (I checked twice). I can only assume partner holds at least 5C or they would have opened 1D. I have no idea what happened to the majors on this deal and why the opps are not entering the bidding holding 20 (count em TWENTY) major suit cards with both suits. The great news is I am 50 %, or more, for no major suit losers, I can at most have 1 trump loser, and (bless his soul)partner has opened where I have 3 small.

Now I have found that there are many players who hold 4D that look like AKQJ and 5 C Kxxxx would open the bidding 1D.They may even have AQxxx in C. I consulted with the crystal ball which remained cloudy. Could it be possible I could fake a splinter in partners suit? Are you sure? OK, as this is a once in a life time hand that is never coming my way again EVER, and because partners have NEVER raised my 8 card suit in the first round of bidding, I take a mild chance and land myself in 6D.

[MrAce]

I am having hard time to figure what the heck is going on, pd opened 1♣ and raised ♦, that makes our side has 11 or 12 ♦ and at least a side 8 card ♣ fit. I am looking at a void ♥ and 6 hcp in my hand when pd said he is minimum. And opponents are not bidding. LOL. That must be a dream!

[ggwhiz]

MrAce, on 2011-October-17, 11:06, said:

I am having hard time to figure what the heck is going on, pd opened 1♣ and raised ♦, that makes our side has 11 or 12 ♦ and at least a side 8 card ♣ fit. I am looking at a void ♥ and 6 hcp in my hand when pd said he is minimum. And opponents are not bidding. LOL. That must be a dream!

Some people play that the 2♦ bid shows reverse values (I don't) but I would still call 911 and check the opps for a pulse.

[jillybean]

The opps aren't bidding because this was bid at the p/ship bidding tables without bots.

Partner had a 2245 12 count.

[Fluffy]

stop counting points and look at the honnors , ♥AQ ♦KQJ aint the same as ♦AQJ ♣KQ10

[han]

This thread proves that GIB turned off actually bids worse than GIB turned on.

[Free]

I would just bid 5♦. Partner has at least 6HCP in ♦ and a minimum opening hand. I don't think we can make slam, but game is likely.

Btw, why don't you use bots in PB? You get them for free in the flash version, and they don't do crazy stuff. Much better to learn how to bid imo, since it's more realistic.