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Pa-Pa-1♣-X
2♣-Pa-Pa-2♠
3♣-3♠-4♣-4♠
Pa-Pa-???
Beyond the fact that 4♣ is awful, does this hand deserve to go to the 5 level or shall we try to defeat the game we, apparently, pushed them to?
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Hand Evaluation Sacrifice or Defend
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Posted 2011-September-08, 15:05
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2011-September-08, 15:27
- Pard did not bid 1♥ or 1♠, therefore denying 4 card-major suit.
- Pard did not bid 1NT, showing a balanced hand with values - by tendency - in ♥ and ♠, that NT-bid doesnt mean though that pard doesnt have support for ♣
- Pard did raise to 2♣, showing by tendency an unbalanced hand, HCP like 1NT, I expect something like 1345 or 2335, with values rather in minors
-> therefore: pass. K of ♥, and K of ♦ seem to be dangerously placed.
- Pard did not bid 1NT, showing a balanced hand with values - by tendency - in ♥ and ♠, that NT-bid doesnt mean though that pard doesnt have support for ♣
- Pard did raise to 2♣, showing by tendency an unbalanced hand, HCP like 1NT, I expect something like 1345 or 2335, with values rather in minors
-> therefore: pass. K of ♥, and K of ♦ seem to be dangerously placed.
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Posted 2011-September-09, 01:07
Hanoi5, on 2011-September-08, 15:05, said:
Beyond the fact that 4♣ is awful, does this hand deserve to go to the 5 level ? ...................?
It would not have crossed my mind.
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Posted 2011-September-10, 08:41
Dbl. They wouldn't bid 4S on their own in a million years so we must be consistent. To pass here would be to admit that all our effort was in their behalf and not on ours.
It's a bit silly, I know, but a bidder's gotta do what a bidder's gotta do.
It's a bit silly, I know, but a bidder's gotta do what a bidder's gotta do.
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Posted 2011-September-10, 16:12
whereagles, on 2011-September-10, 08:41, said:
Dbl. They wouldn't bid 4S on their own in a million years so we must be consistent. To pass here would be to admit that all our effort was in their behalf and not on ours.
It's a bit silly, I know, but a bidder's gotta do what a bidder's gotta do.
It's a bit silly, I know, but a bidder's gotta do what a bidder's gotta do.
I think you missread the bidding, nobody pushed the opponents
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Posted 2011-September-10, 16:37
sounds like pard has a mixed 5-card club raise...about a 7 count or so, and did not want to bid a 3C preempt over the double. We could easily score a club, a diamond and two hearts just on partner's quacks and my heart ten. Let them play 4S.
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Posted 2011-September-10, 18:26
Oh dear! If 4♣ is awful, what is 5♣? You have answered your own question. You have a balanced min with 4 trumps. Nothing suggests 4♣, much less five. The most you can possibly gain is -500 vs -620. If the sac happens to be right, pard has to bid it.
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Posted 2011-September-11, 02:08
Fluffy, on 2011-September-10, 16:12, said:
I think you missread the bidding, nobody pushed the opponents
Well, I mean advancer might not have bid 3S if responder didn't bid 3C. And dbler might have not bid 4S if opener hadn't bid 4C.
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Posted 2011-September-11, 12:12
whereagles, on 2011-September-11, 02:08, said:
Well, I mean advancer might not have bid 3S if responder didn't bid 3C. And dbler might have not bid 4S if opener hadn't bid 4C.
Yep. And the 4C bidder, IMO, wanted them to bid 4S. So, he should defend and see if his awful 4C gains 5 IMPS, pushes, or loses 7. My guess is he will win 5.
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