overcalling a bad 6 card major with 2 outside aces
#21
Posted 2011-June-14, 07:23
I would rate a 2S overcall as horrible
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#22
Posted 2011-June-14, 08:00
Thanks all. It was a clear 1 spade bid to me as most of you suggest.
I don't see much value in using Ogust over a weak jump overcall except that I suppose it allows partner to make jump overcalls on more hands, showing a 6 card suit. and white against red that could be advantageous I suppose. ??
I don't see much value in using Ogust over a weak jump overcall except that I suppose it allows partner to make jump overcalls on more hands, showing a 6 card suit. and white against red that could be advantageous I suppose. ??
#23
Posted 2011-June-14, 08:07
JLOGIC, on 2011-June-14, 07:23, said:
I would rate a 2S overcall as horrible
That good!!! at these colors?
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EDIT: BTW second sentence was meant for the OP. JLOL has some semblance of knowledge of preemptive bidding strategy
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#24
Posted 2011-June-14, 09:35
movingon, on 2011-June-14, 08:00, said:
I don't see much value in using Ogust over a weak jump overcall except that I suppose it allows partner to make jump overcalls on more hands, showing a 6 card suit. and white against red that could be advantageous I suppose. ??
A good thought about needing Ogust or not according to vulnerability. Perhaps in a future thread it will be explored as a consideration (for weak-two opening bids).
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
#26
Posted 2011-June-14, 15:32
whereagles, on 2011-June-14, 14:12, said:
yes, but this was JLOGIC. big difference ![:P](http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Yes in terms of bridge skill JLOL>PhantomSac>Jlall version 2>Guest_Jlall aka Jlall version 1>JLOGIC imo
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#27
Posted 2011-June-15, 01:09
movingon, on 2011-June-13, 09:54, said:
opponent opens 1 club. (You are red, opps are white)
How would you rate a 2 spade overcall here?
Question 2: If one were playing Ogust over a weak jump overcall, how would you rate the bid?
Thanks for your responses.
How would you rate a 2 spade overcall here?
Question 2: If one were playing Ogust over a weak jump overcall, how would you rate the bid?
Thanks for your responses.
♥
A 2♠ overcall is no good:
- the spades are not good enough.
- and 2 outside aces , make this simply impossible.
1♠ is the best bid: the lack of honnor points is compensated by the extra-lenght.
♥Bob Herreman ♥
#28
Posted 2011-June-26, 19:43
1 spade every time--but i do not decry a pass initialy,i am prepared to back in later when i have heard opps bid and my pards bid,
and openers rebid------never jump with a bad suit
and openers rebid------never jump with a bad suit