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Posted 2011-April-19, 04:54

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MPs, Opps vulnerable, rho deals and passes, 4NT as an opening unavaible, your options today are:


(pass)-1-(2)-pass
(3)-??

(pass)-2-(2)-3
(3)-??
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Posted 2011-April-19, 09:51

I'd open 2 not 1.

On the next round, we have two ways to bid 5 - bid it directly, or pass then bid 5. I'll choose the one that shows a spade control.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2011-April-20, 01:47

I'd also open 2, next I guess 5 gets my hand across.
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Posted 2011-April-20, 15:50

Is 4N second time not blackwood in either case ? Certainly is if I've opened 1, is partner really going to play me for a square 29 count if I've opened 2 ?
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Posted 2011-April-20, 16:52

After that 2 sequence it's rkc for which doesn't work too well here.
Don't I have an option of namyats+4NT?
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Posted 2011-April-20, 18:29

It seems like there is an even easier sequence.

Open 4NT.
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Posted 2011-April-20, 21:14

Possibly after opening 1 and getting interfered with, rebid 5? That should say to pard, "I have 11 tricks, please raise if you have an ace".

I think it is better to keep the 2 openings for when you have an actual strong hand, not just incredible distribution and loads of tricks. This is cause if you have distribution, so does everyone else, and you are very unlikely to get passed out in your 1-level opening. My current partner (let's call him Alice) raised a one-time casual partner (let's call him Bob) to 7NT after he opened 2 with something like the hand mentioned and Alice had something like 18 HCP, of course Alice went down some and Bob yelled at Alice, but after a consultation with Peter Gill who in my opinion is the best player in Australia and worthy of awesome respect and admiration, said Alice was perfectly right and Bob had nothing resembling a 2 opening. If Peter Gill says it, I am happy to take it as law (plus it helps that it makes sense logically).
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Posted 2011-April-21, 04:07

View PostFlameous, on 2011-April-20, 16:52, said:

After that 2 sequence it's rkc for which doesn't work too well here.
Don't I have an option of namyats+4NT?

Ah, 4 would be KC for for us so 4N is just 4 ace.
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Posted 2011-April-21, 05:04

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-April-21, 04:07, said:

Ah, 4 would be KC for for us so 4N is just 4 ace.

blink, blink.......... blink,
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Posted 2011-April-21, 11:47

View PostCyberyeti, on 2011-April-21, 04:07, said:

Ah, 4 would be KC for for us so 4N is just 4 ace.



View PostFluffy, on 2011-April-21, 05:04, said:

blink, blink.......... blink,


Actually I forgot 4 was minimum natural level to bid but the point still holds, 4 would be nat F, 4 would be keycard and 4N would be 4 ace black.
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Posted 2011-April-26, 08:32

Opening 4NT would be good.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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