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Codo, on Sep 13 2010, 01:47 AM, said:
Thinking about 2 ♣ is an overbid.
Hey, that line about thinking being an overbid is copyrighted by me!!!!!!!
What would you open and why. Discussion at the table.
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Posted 2010-September-21, 10:41
Hey, that line about thinking being an overbid is copyrighted by me!!!!!!!
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Posted 2010-September-21, 11:11
Last week Claudio Nunes surprised me by opening 2C with this hand:
void
KQJxxx
AK
Kxxxx
It should be noted that he was playing in the "individual" segment of the Buffett Cup (ie with someone other than his regular partner).
He ended up in 4H opposite 10x of hearts and 10xx of clubs.
Hearts were 3-2 and he was able to play clubs for 2 losers, but he still lost control after repeated spade leads by the defense (only reason I am mentioning this is because I found it amusing - I am not suggesting that this proves anything about the wisdom of Claudio's decision to open 2C).
But maybe if such a great player thought that this hand was worth 2C, we shouldn't be so quick to condemn the concept of opening 2C on the hand that was the subject of this thread?
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void
KQJxxx
AK
Kxxxx
It should be noted that he was playing in the "individual" segment of the Buffett Cup (ie with someone other than his regular partner).
He ended up in 4H opposite 10x of hearts and 10xx of clubs.
Hearts were 3-2 and he was able to play clubs for 2 losers, but he still lost control after repeated spade leads by the defense (only reason I am mentioning this is because I found it amusing - I am not suggesting that this proves anything about the wisdom of Claudio's decision to open 2C).
But maybe if such a great player thought that this hand was worth 2C, we shouldn't be so quick to condemn the concept of opening 2C on the hand that was the subject of this thread?
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
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Posted 2010-September-21, 11:31
fred, on Sep 21 2010, 12:11 PM, said:
Last week Claudio Nunes surprised me by opening 2C with this hand:
void
KQJxxx
AK
Kxxxx
It should be noted that he was playing in the "individual" segment of the Buffett Cup (ie with someone other than his regular partner).
He ended up in 4H opposite 10x of hearts and 10xx of clubs.
Hearts were 3-2 and he was able to play clubs for 2 losers, but he still lost control after repeated spade leads by the defense (only reason I am mentioning this is because I found it amusing - I am not suggesting that this proves anything about the wisdom of Claudio's decision to open 2C).
But maybe if such a great player thought that this hand was worth 2C, we shouldn't be so quick to condemn the concept of opening 2C on the hand that was the subject of this thread?
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
void
KQJxxx
AK
Kxxxx
It should be noted that he was playing in the "individual" segment of the Buffett Cup (ie with someone other than his regular partner).
He ended up in 4H opposite 10x of hearts and 10xx of clubs.
Hearts were 3-2 and he was able to play clubs for 2 losers, but he still lost control after repeated spade leads by the defense (only reason I am mentioning this is because I found it amusing - I am not suggesting that this proves anything about the wisdom of Claudio's decision to open 2C).
But maybe if such a great player thought that this hand was worth 2C, we shouldn't be so quick to condemn the concept of opening 2C on the hand that was the subject of this thread?
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
well, while a sample of one is hardly strong evidence of anything the fact that opening 2♣ on this hand led to a poor result is not exactly an endorsement of the light approach to bidding. It is only one data point, and plotting it on a graph would be unhelpful (I only mention this to show Hanp that I read his signature), but to the extent it shows anything it shows that 2♣ was a poor choice.
I also have difficulty with the notion that opening 2♣ on that hand would actually accomplish anything that opening 1♥ wouldn't. Maybe he hoped to preempt the opps, who might overcall 1♠ over 1♥ but stay out over 2♣? If so, that's a novel (to me) approach to opening 2♣....for its preemptive value!
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