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Long clubs in second seat

Poll: What call do you make? (53 member(s) have cast votes)

What call do you make?

  1. Pass (3 votes [5.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.66%

  2. 1C (21 votes [39.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 39.62%

  3. 1N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3C (26 votes [49.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 49.06%

  5. 3N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Other (3 votes [5.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.66%

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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2010-September-12, 13:34

Scoring: XIMP

pass to you

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Posted 2010-September-12, 14:37

I prefer to play a style where this is a 3C opener.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 20:18

3C for me.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 20:22

3♣ is somewhat my preference here as we are vulnerable and allowed to hold a max.

Stiff Q and Jx and no aces are all defects causing me to not want to open 1♣.

Sometimes we may miss 4♠ by not opening 1♣ if PD has the right hand with 5♠.

However, the problem with opening 1♣ is when we end up too high often in a hopeless 3NT or when the opps bid a making game that they may have missed had we opened 3♣.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 20:42

1♣, the high card points matter even in short suits. Like if partner bids notrump, or because it changes the odds the opponents can/will bid/make something.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 20:54

1♣, but if GIB passed or opened 3♣, that is not a bug. OTOH, if he opened 1♠ or 1NT...
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Posted 2010-September-12, 21:34

definitely 1C for me, good suit quality and if partner has 5 spades with a 12 count we will get to a good 4S contract. Something we'll never reach if I open 3C
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Posted 2010-September-12, 21:48

Its about half a trick heavier than I really like my best eval-vul 3C bids to be... but I dont like opening 4C, and I really dont like opening 1C on a hand not likely to produce even one defensive trick. 3C is the smallest lie IMO.
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Posted 2010-September-12, 22:57

Siegmund, on Sep 12 2010, 10:48 PM, said:

I really dont like opening 1C on a hand not likely to produce even one defensive trick.

It's not certain of course but I'd say we are overwhelmingly likely to produce a defensive trick or two.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 02:05

4C (or 3C, if I remember our new agreement).

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Posted 2010-September-13, 03:04

1C.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 04:15

655321, on Sep 13 2010, 02:54 AM, said:

1♣, but if GIB passed or opened 3♣, that is not a bug.  OTOH, if he opened 1♠ or 1NT...

I would like to amend this post: any number of ♣, (except 2 or 6+) is not a bug.
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Posted 2010-September-13, 04:46

gwnn, on Sep 13 2010, 10:15 AM, said:

655321, on Sep 13 2010, 02:54 AM, said:

1♣, but if GIB passed or opened 3♣, that is not a bug.  OTOH, if he opened 1♠ or 1NT...

I would like to amend this post: any number of ♣, (except 2 or 6+) is not a bug.

1NT >>> 5♣
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Posted 2010-September-14, 07:43

I was about to say 2C, showing 11-15 and 6+ clubs, but then I realized I'm in the SAYC forum.

I'd open 1C on this hand playing standard or 2/1.
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Posted 2010-September-14, 10:02

1♣.

I have too much potential for 3N to open 3♣.
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Posted 2010-September-14, 10:14

3♣ because I have 3NT potential, but not 4M potential :)
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Posted 2010-September-14, 12:38

This would be a first seat 1C for me, but a second seat 3C.
What to open with this, depends on the style agreed.
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Posted 2010-September-14, 12:38

1NT transfer to clubs ;-)
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Posted 2010-September-14, 19:39

peachy, on Sep 15 2010, 01:38 AM, said:

This would be a first seat 1C for me, but a second seat 3C.
What to open with this, depends on the style agreed.

First or third seat 3C and second seat 1C is more logical.
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Posted 2010-September-14, 20:06

I dont understand 3C at all

give partner

AQxxx
Axx
xxxx
x

or anything even close to that.

How on earth will you find 4S after 3C?
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