[fingolfin3]

I'm pretty bad at figuring these out, so any help is appreciated.

How would you play this suit for one loser?

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[pooltuna]

fingolfin3, on Jul 29 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

I'm pretty bad at figuring these out, so any help is appreciated.

How would you play this suit for one loser?

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looks like all 32 breaks handle fairly easily by A and low. However this is played like this to handle some of the 41 breaks where the singleton is either the K or T. You usually bite the dust against KTxx vs x. Sure you can pick it up on your left by finessing the 9 but you increase your 32 losses when RHO has Tx

[TimG]

pooltuna, on Jul 29 2010, 02:31 PM, said:

fingolfin3, on Jul 29 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

I'm pretty bad at figuring these out, so any help is appreciated.

How would you play this suit for one loser?

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looks like all 32 breaks handle fairly easily by A and low. However this is played like this to handle some of the 41 breaks where the singleton is either the K or T. You usually bite the dust against KTxx vs x. Sure you can pick it up on your left by finessing the 9 but you increase your 32 losses when RHO has Tx

I'm not good at these things either...but leading the Queen seems to pick up singleton 7, 8 or T on your left and singleton T or K on your right.

Ace and then low picks up singleton K or T on either side.

So, doesn't leading the Queen pick up an extra 4-1? (Really asking, I'm never confident in these things.)

[Lobowolf]

pooltuna, on Jul 29 2010, 02:31 PM, said:

fingolfin3, on Jul 29 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

I'm pretty bad at figuring these out, so any help is appreciated.

How would you play this suit for one loser?

Q9x AJ6xx

looks like all 32 breaks handle fairly easily by A and low. However this is played like this to handle some of the 41 breaks where the singleton is either the K or T. You usually bite the dust against KTxx vs x. Sure you can pick it up on your left by finessing the 9 but you increase your 32 losses when RHO has Tx

Which is where knowing your customers comes into play. There are players (LHO) against whom you don't have to worry about losing 2 tricks to Kxx --- Tx, because with Kxx, they'll always grab the king or fidget. Against a typical B/I club player, I like the practical odds of leading low to dummy.

[pooltuna]

TimG, on Jul 29 2010, 03:12 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Jul 29 2010, 02:31 PM, said:

fingolfin3, on Jul 29 2010, 01:05 PM, said:

I'm pretty bad at figuring these out, so any help is appreciated.

How would you play this suit for one loser?

<!-- ONESUIT begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <td> Q9x </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <td>  </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <td>  </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <td> AJ6xx </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONESUIT end -->

looks like all 32 breaks handle fairly easily by A and low. However this is played like this to handle some of the 41 breaks where the singleton is either the K or T. You usually bite the dust against KTxx vs x. Sure you can pick it up on your left by finessing the 9 but you increase your 32 losses when RHO has Tx

I'm not good at these things either...but leading the Queen seems to pick up singleton 7, 8 or T on your left and singleton T or K on your right.

Ace and then low picks up singleton K or T on either side.

So, doesn't leading the Queen pick up an extra 4-1? (Really asking, I'm never confident in these things.)

looks like a good catch to me as I actually did an excel spread sheet on the 41 and 32 breaks. Note that while "Small to A unless RHO plays T,8, or 7 then finesse the 9" picks up two more 41 splits while it loses four 32 splits which means the cost is a lot higher.

[xx1943]

There is a great little tool available called suitplay
This tool answers all the questions how to play a special suit combination correct.
suitplay


If you type in the the given hands, you get the result that it is best (81,96%) to lead the Q and play low towards the 9, ithe Q is covered.

You win 4 tricks with this line in 25 cases und lose in the 7 cases when LHO holds:
void, 5; K; K1075 K1085 K1087 and K10875.

You win e.g. against the singleton 7, 8 or 10 with LHO or singleton K with RHO.