Partners 3♣ only promises 6+ cards, not necessarily sound at these colors
3NT, 4H, pass?
#1
Posted 2010-July-07, 07:12
Partners 3♣ only promises 6+ cards, not necessarily sound at these colors
#2
Posted 2010-July-07, 07:19
George Carlin
#3
Posted 2010-July-07, 09:30
-gwnn
#4
Posted 2010-July-07, 09:37
#5
Posted 2010-July-07, 10:13
4♥ is hardly risk free but seems to me to be a better compromise in that it will make probably as frequently as 3N, and will usually fail by less when it goes down...of course, that won't be true if it goes double on my left....then I'll run to 5♣. If LHO does double 4♥, suggesting the heart Q and length, that seems to me to make 3N even worse in hindsight so I won't regret my decision (yet).
Also, given it's mps...if both games make, there is a reasonable chance that 4♥ will score a trick better..certainly enough often that I won't worry about being in the safer game compared to the better scoring game.
#6
Posted 2010-July-07, 10:33
#7
Posted 2010-July-07, 10:34
George Carlin
#9
Posted 2010-July-07, 12:06
#10
Posted 2010-July-07, 12:34
hanp, on Jul 7 2010, 01:06 PM, said:
Do you play that? I would play it as penalty implying short hearts and/or good defense with something in spades, in my dreams QTx x xxx AQxxxx.
#11
Posted 2010-July-07, 12:37
playing with someone with my attitude to pre-empts i'd be wheeling out keycard with an eye on 7♣
#12
Posted 2010-July-07, 12:38
dcohio, on Jul 7 2010, 12:36 PM, said:
(p)-3♣-(3♠)-3NT-ap
6♠ lead from south
How greedy are we?
And how tough/good are the opps? If we duck and RHO has 7 spades, and no obvious entry, he may shift to a diamond, but that really doesn't seem to change things....we can hardly be worse off in that scenario, if we have to lose a trick, compared to winning trick one.. Also, we may have 13 tricks!
But I won't worry about 13 tricks, since it is far from clear that those playing in 4♥ (me for one) will make more than 10-12 no matter how things lie.
So I duck. I hope to win the spade continuation and then:
Top heart. If the Q drops, I will defer congratulating myself for my brilliancy...crossing to heart 10, back in clubs, run hearts and later eschew the club finesse.....if, at the end, the club Q drops on my right, then I congratulate myself on my brilliance, while regretting my first trick duck.
If, as is probable, the top heart draws no paint, then club K, club A. If the Queen appears offside, revert to congratulatory mode and later decide whether to hook the heart...depends on how many spades I place LHO with, and I will probably know that by them. If the club Q appeared onside, no congratulations are in order, but at least we are making, and I will risk the contract later if comfortable about the spade situation.
If the top clubs leave the Q outstanding, run the heart 10 (unless, obviously, it is covered) Here is where the trick one duck may have helped. It definitely helped if spades were 7222.
If they switch to a diamond at trick 2, it will probably be an honour. I'll win...hoping for a blockage or that one of the above round suit combinations pay off: I see little point ducking this trick.
#13
Posted 2010-July-07, 12:39
I ducked the first spade, North continued with a spade to my A
AK of hearts, both opps followed at trick one, north discards a spade at trick 2. K♣ south plays small, N plays the 10. Club to the ace drops the doubleton Q.
6 clubs, 2 hearts, a diamond and a spade. +430 and top board.
#14
Posted 2010-July-07, 12:47
#15
Posted 2010-July-07, 12:50
jdonn, on Jul 7 2010, 06:34 PM, said:
hanp, on Jul 7 2010, 01:06 PM, said:
Do you play that? I would play it as penalty implying short hearts and/or good defense with something in spades, in my dreams QTx x xxx AQxxxx.
Yeah I don't think this is an auction where X means "please bid on" - there's nothing wrong with opener bidding 5H here, I am not going to have a massive spade stack for my 4H bid over 3S.
#16
Posted 2010-July-07, 13:03
#17
Posted 2010-July-07, 15:16
dcohio, on Jul 8 2010, 07:39 AM, said:
I ducked the first spade, North continued with a spade to my A
AK of hearts, both opps followed at trick one, north discards a spade at trick 2. K♣ south plays small, N plays the 10. Club to the ace drops the doubleton Q.
6 clubs, 2 hearts, a diamond and a spade. +430 and top board.
Maybe you don't play against people who are mean enough to drop the 10 from 10x. I like mikeh's line better and it makes the same number.
#18
Posted 2010-July-07, 16:21
nigel_k, on Jul 7 2010, 04:16 PM, said:
dcohio, on Jul 8 2010, 07:39 AM, said:
I ducked the first spade, North continued with a spade to my A
AK of hearts, both opps followed at trick one, north discards a spade at trick 2. K♣ south plays small, N plays the 10. Club to the ace drops the doubleton Q.
6 clubs, 2 hearts, a diamond and a spade. +430 and top board.
Maybe you don't play against people who are mean enough to drop the 10 from 10x. I like mikeh's line better and it makes the same number.
Assuming that rho has 7 spades, my line makes 11 tricks if they continue spades...I'd need to be at the table but I suspect I could tell, by LHO's second spade, whether he began with 2 or 3...if with 2, I float the heart ten in the endgame, losing only a spade and a diamond.
(p)-3♣-(3♠)-?