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#1 User is offline   billw55 

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Posted 2010-June-21, 13:24

Scoring: MP


Righty opens 1♠. Your choice?
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Posted 2010-June-21, 13:38

Close one. I feel compelled to overcall 2♥ since I don't need much from partner to produce a heart game.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 13:39

I would overcall 2♥ at matchpoints. Obviously it could work out badly but a small plus against their partscore when we could make 2♥ will not be good either.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 15:02

easy pass in my style. Pard will bid if it's our hand, due to his expected spade shortness
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Posted 2010-June-21, 15:12

billw55, on Jun 21 2010, 02:24 PM, said:

Scoring: MP


Righty opens 1♠. Your choice?

2♥
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Posted 2010-June-21, 15:41

pass please! we're red and we have AQxx in their suit.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 15:44

I would rather bid 2♥ now than give them a free run to a couple or 3 ♣ and then stick my neck out.

However, it's really close and I don't mind pass at all.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 15:47

would rather overcall 1NT than double if I cannot pass, but I'd pass.

wait, is anyone suggesting other options? O_o
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Posted 2010-June-21, 15:51

I've been known to try 1NT some days and 2H on other days with this hand. With mixed results.

At IMPs maybe I could make myself pass.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 17:07

2♥
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Posted 2010-June-21, 17:13

gwnn, on Jun 21 2010, 03:41 PM, said:

pass please! we're red and we have AQxx in their suit.

We have different ideas about that AQXX of Spades. They are what makes 2♥ for me. When close between O/C and pass, length --even bad length--behind opener makes me more agressive.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 17:27

I've been reading too much Ulf Nilsson... But I love his style, except that I can't quite bring myself to almost ignore suit quality.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 18:39

gwnn, on Jun 21 2010, 11:27 PM, said:

I've been reading too much Ulf Nilsson... But I love his style, except that I can't quite bring myself to almost ignore suit quality.

With extra values and some shape, suit quality doesn't matter much IMO. Still, I am not quite convinced by his statement not to overcall with a 4 card suit in opener's suit with a top honor. If I have some extra value or good suits, I still think overcalling here is clear, because you may either hit a nice flop or find 3NT against aggressive openers, or find a reasonable partial at relatively low levels. Of course, if you play this style, you can't sac too much at high levels, which is the trade off.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 18:57

I think with a certain hand strength suit quality takes a back seat to the need to compete. There is every reason to think this is our hand so get in there and fight.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 19:00

2♥
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Posted 2010-June-21, 19:16

gwnn, on Jun 21 2010, 06:27 PM, said:

I've been reading too much Ulf Nilsson... But I love his style, except that I can't quite bring myself to almost ignore suit quality.

you haven't had a tough overcall until you have to bid over 1♣ with ♠87653 ♥AK86 ♦K7 ♣KJ and I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY BUFFALO CHIPS ABOUT PASSING. :(
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Posted 2010-June-21, 20:03

I would pass - not close for me.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 20:09

Phil, on Jun 21 2010, 07:57 PM, said:

I think with a certain hand strength suit quality takes a back seat to the need to compete. There is every reason to think this is our hand so get in there and fight.

We agree. 2♥ for me also.
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Posted 2010-June-21, 21:46

pass
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Posted 2010-June-21, 22:43

2H wtp ?
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