[jillybean]

Strati Flighted Swiss Teams?

[Stephen Tu]

"Strati flighted" is a combination of stratification and flighting. The teams are divided into multiple groups (aka flighting), usually something like A/X + B/C/D, each of which compete separately. Within each flight, teams play teams from all strats, but results are stratified, so you are ranked against teams in your own stratification, so say a "C" team can win the "C" strat despite say finishing fifth in B. You also compete against teams in higher strats for places in that stratification, you get masterpoints for whatever is higher, the award for placing in the higher strat or the place in your own strat.

Swiss I think you know (match up teams with similar scores, who haven't played previously).

[blackshoe]

The schedule for Reno last March had this in it:

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Strati-Flighted events are divided: A/X (3000+/0–3000); separate from B/C/D (1000–2000, 500–1000, 0–500). Strat breaks for stratified events are: A (2000+), B (750–2000), C (0–750). All Stratification will be based on the average for the pair/team. In any event with an upper limit, no individual player's Masterpoint total may exceed that upper limit.

AFAIK, the divisions are arbitrary - the TO (including a club) can set them wherever they like for their games. OTOH, I've heard players refer to themselves or to other players as "Flight A" even in games which aren't flighted at all, simply because they have some number of masterpoints which the player believes makes them "flight A".

Flight A above is basically 3000+ masterpoints. The A/X stratification allows people who aren't "Flight A" to "play up".

We have a club here which runs a multi-section game, basically one or two "Flight A" sections, and usually two "Flight 'everybody else'" sections, but they don't call it a strati-flighted game, and I'm not sure they do the "overall score" thing correctly in ACBLScore. Most of the "Flight A" group have upwards of 1000 or more (in some cases many more) masterpoints (except that the X folks include even some non-life-masters). The other group is basically "299ers".

[CSGibson]

blackshoe, on May 26 2010, 12:07 AM, said:

The schedule for Reno last March had this in it:

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Strati-Flighted events are divided: A/X (3000+/0–3000); separate from B/C/D (1000–2000, 500–1000, 0–500). Strat breaks for stratified events are: A (2000+), B (750–2000), C (0–750). All Stratification will be based on the average for the pair/team. In any event with an upper limit, no individual player's Masterpoint total may exceed that upper limit.

AFAIK, the divisions are arbitrary - the TO (including a club) can set them wherever they like for their games. OTOH, I've heard players refer to themselves or to other players as "Flight A" even in games which aren't flighted at all, simply because they have some number of masterpoints which the player believes makes them "flight A".

Flight A above is basically 3000+ masterpoints. The A/X stratification allows people who aren't "Flight A" to "play up".

We have a club here which runs a multi-section game, basically one or two "Flight A" sections, and usually two "Flight 'everybody else'" sections, but they don't call it a strati-flighted game, and I'm not sure they do the "overall score" thing correctly in ACBLScore. Most of the "Flight A" group have upwards of 1000 or more (in some cases many more) masterpoints (except that the X folks include even some non-life-masters). The other group is basically "299ers".

When someone refers to themselves as flight A, B, or C, it usually refers to the flight they would qualify for in the NAP or GNT contests, since that is standard throughout the ACBL.

[jillybean]

So, I can get a team together and play in (A)/X (0-4000)

The flyer says Strati Flighted Events: A: 4000+, X: 0-4000 (standalone)
does this mean X plays seperate from A?

[kfay]

A and X play together.

B/C/D play together.

[Stephen Tu]

Yes, anyone can play in A/X.

A with X is "standalone", they play separately from B/C/D.

X does not play separate from A, they play with A, the whole point of X is to give some bonus points to people with low attendance points who want to play with the A players.

[mycroft]

The flyer probably says:

Strati Flighted Events:
A: 4000+, X:0-4000 (standalone)
B: 1500-3000, C: 500-1500, D: 0-500

or the like.

No, X does not play standalone - the A/X game plays standalone (stratified into two fields 4000 and below), and the B/C/(D) game plays separate from Flight A (stratified however).

If you want to play in Flight A, even though your team has 400 points between the four, go for it. You'll be in X :-). The thing is that nobody <3000 *has* to play against the "experts" if they don't want to; if they have >3000, they *are* one of the "experts" that we're "protecting" the B/C game against (and if they feel that they need protection, I'm sorry for them).

I by preference always play in Flight A - one of the reasons I still qualify for C (sometimes - they keep raising the limits). One day at the NABC in Nashville I bought my entry for a stratiflighted pairs. The TD asked "A or X?" - X was 0-5000 there. My 1400 pair total says "oh, very X".

I thoroughly enjoyed the game (would have enjoyed it more, though, if partner had finished the throw-in of Name Pro to make 3Hx that it looked like he was trying, and had in fact set up).

[jillybean]

Ok, thanks for the clarification. I have just played at a regional where I played one day in A/X pairs which was wonderful, although not surprisingly, we didn't finish well and one day in BCD teams which wasn't so good so I was wondering about playing in the A/X teams at the next tournament.