[Echognome]

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - (2♠) - P - (P);
?

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You are playing 2/1. What now?

As an aside, you can state your disgust or admiration in opening 1♦.

[TylerE]

Dislike opening, but not strongly. Would open playing Std Am or strong club. Anything but pass now is criminal. I don't care if partner has a penalty double of spades...

[rogerclee]

x wtp

2N is nat

[jdonn]

1♦ is fine especially with a good suit.

Among the options now from worst to best, 2NT is not one because it's natural. You are way too light for 3♣ and have takeout shape anyway so that's wrong. Pass is feeble IMO since even with how minimum we are we have decent defense. I have the right shape to double so I double. There is not only a penalty pass, partner could have some 4324 8 or 9 count as well and then I want to compete in clubs.

[jjbrr]

If it was an opening hand before, it's still an opening hand now. Dbl.

[aguahombre]

would have opened 1d.
Would prefer 2NT not to be natural, but would rather have a better hand with 0-3-6-4 (delay unusual).
3C=right shape, but wrong strength.
this leaves double and pass. Double by default.

[Rodney26]

aguahombre, on Feb 12 2010, 01:44 PM, said:

would have opened 1d.
Would prefer 2NT not to be natural, but would rather have a better hand with 0-3-6-4 (delay unusual).
3C=right shape, but wrong strength.
this leaves double and pass. Double by default.

I don't think the "delay unusual" hand is going to come up much. Unless you play a Mexican 2D and can remove it from the possible list of hands you can hold, the 3-2-4-4/18-19 HCP is going to be tough to handle. 2S is going to shut out a lot of partner's 7-9 counts (especially ones where partner has a useful card in spades).

If you're void and RHO has red blood cells, partner's going to have a spade stack most of the time that this would ever come up. When partner doesn't have a stack, RHO is usually going to raise.

[awm]

I would have passed or opened a weak two in diamonds playing standard methods. Given the current sequence, I like a 3♣ balance (and my second choice is pass, not double).

Given the auction so far, it seems very likely that partner has 4-5♠ (no raise from RHO). This greatly increases the chance that partner is passing if we double. I'm not convinced this is likely to work out well; converting a double like this doesn't promise the four tricks we will need to set, and I expect a lot more 2♠= results than 2♠-2 results.

Another issue is that partner will strain to bid hearts over the double. For example, with a 4423 hand partner (if not passing) will bid 3♥. I'd expect 3♣ to work out better most of the time.

[Echognome]

The actual hand.

http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer...8926-1265004615

Opening 1♦ and doubling didn't work out this time.

[jdonn]

You might say playing for penalties at a low level without a trump stack didn't work this time...

[Siegmund]

No unreasonable decisions there, just an unfortunate result, I think.

The reopening double with a void is never risk-free, as we know... still, on the posted hand I think it's the most reasonable action. If GB2N were on in this auction it's handle things nicely - but in my partnerships, it is not. Oh well.

Maybe at IMPs you should have one more spot in spades to pass rather than bid clubs. but if I were east or west I wouldn't heavily criticize any of my partner's bids here.

[pooltuna]

Echognome, on Feb 12 2010, 01:19 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - (2♠) - P - (P);
?

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You are playing 2/1. What now?

As an aside, you can state your disgust or admiration in opening 1♦.

Protect your partner!!! if that means bidding 3♣ instead of X then do it just don't pass IMO

[hrothgar]

Looks like bad luck to me...

I would not have opened the South hand; however, much better players than me would.

Once you open, you need to reopen and I think that double is the best call.
Regretfully, you ran into a situation in which both sides had a double fit. This is seldom good for the defense. In this case, it meant that the bulk of Jason's cards weren't worth squat on defense.

Such is life...

[655321]

I would have opened and doubled (but I do think that 1♦ is getting close to the bottom of the barrel).

Very much dislike the pass for penalties on partner's hand. K932, and a partial fit for diamonds, and all the points in clubs. I would have tried 3NT immediately. 3NT won't make but if it escapes a double it will score better than -570.

Why the 3 hour turnaround time between posting and showing the hands?

[jdonn]

655321, on Feb 12 2010, 06:57 PM, said:

I would have opened and doubled (but I do think that 1♦ is getting close to the bottom of the barrel).

Very much dislike the pass for penalties on partner's hand.  K932, and a partial fit for diamonds, and all the points in clubs.  I would have tried 3NT immediately.  3NT won't make but if it escapes a double it will score better than -570.

If it doesn't escape a double it will also score better than -570, either -100 or -300 depending which major south leads. Also if doubled, west may wise up and run...

[wank]

passing for penalties on k932 is druggy

[neilkaz]

jjbrr, on Feb 12 2010, 12:41 PM, said:

If it was an opening hand before, it's still an opening hand now. Dbl.

We agree and for me this is an opening hand

[mike777]

easy 2nt by pard not pass.



3nt if open soundish.

I reopen x always.

[aguahombre]

yep..i stick with open and double, too....can't change our system to GB 2NT after opening--just because it works -- in the middle of an auction. If pard pulls the double to 2NT, 3C is easy and resting in 3D, though, if this shows weakness and shape.

[mike777]

yes...I think pard should neverpass....



just bid 2nt over 2s...or 3nt if pard does not open on junk.



this lets me open on junk and reopen with x on junk..