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Always look on the bright side of death Just before y' draw your terminal breath

#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2010-February-04, 04:34

xxxx
QT
Kxxx
xxx

p-1♦-4♠-5♥
???

favorable imps!

Partner likes to open quite sound. His opening preempts are quite solid. You have almost gone off in 5♠ once when he tried for slam with AK A A opposite your 4♠ opener (not saying that it's absurd to do so, but just to illustrate what he is accustomed to). But of course now you're a passed hand so who knows what he's got?

edit: I got the minor wrong.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 04:42

pass. it's not our hand and opps are in deep trouble. let's see where they land and (perhaps) bid later... lol
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Posted 2010-February-04, 05:30

Deep trouble? Everything is lying perfectly for them. I would pass in the hopes of not pushing them to a making slam. If they do bid a slam, I suspect I should probably save.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 07:17

I pass and leave it to partner to dbl.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 07:27

I pass and pull partner's dbl.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 08:09

5♠. With four trumps, a doubleton, and a side king, my hand is much better than it could be.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 08:16

With the king of diamonds in front of the diamond bidder, a four card spade suit and the queen of hearts where they will search her- no way I am pushing them to the very likely making slam.

I pass and it is not close.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 08:27

Codo, on Feb 4 2010, 09:16 AM, said:

With the king of diamonds in front of the diamond bidder, a four card spade suit and the queen of hearts where they will search her- no way I am pushing them to the very likely making slam.

I pass and it is not close.

The question is not whether to bid six ♠ now but in the next round of bidding if it arrives :)
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Posted 2010-February-04, 08:53

Codo, on Feb 4 2010, 09:16 AM, said:

With the king of diamonds in front of the diamond bidder, a four card spade suit and the queen of hearts where they will search her- no way I am pushing them to the very likely making slam.

I pass and it is not close.

I am thinking that since I am a passed hand, partner need not be weak for his 4♠ call. In which case, maybe their slam is not so cold. Understanding this, partner can decide whether to bid 6 over 6, if ops try it. Totally wrong thinking?
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Posted 2010-February-04, 09:28

Pass. Don't alert the opponents about the magnitude of our side's spade fit. They will be better able to judge the potential of their hands for slam if you raise spades.

If partner doubles (which shows that he really meant it when he bid 4♠ :) ), bid 5♠.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 09:36

I don't quite understand all the fuss about pushing them into a making slam. If we think their slam is so cold, we have an easy 6♠ bid over it. It might not even cost more than their game at favorable.

But what if they are only making five? Don't we want to save over that too? Partner can't do it alone.
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Posted 2010-February-04, 09:43

I'd just bid 6♠ now and be done with it.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 01:57

9 tricks in spades and 10 in hearts. Pd has sp AQJTxx and diamond KTxx and another ACE I think.

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KTxx of clubs and not diamonds of course.
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Posted 2010-February-08, 03:21

Hi,

If you have the agreement in place - you could make a X,
showing offense and defence, partner should bid 5S with no
defence at all.
This or a similar agreement is useful, if your preempts are
wideranging facing a passed hand.

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Posted 2010-February-08, 03:22

gwnn, on Feb 8 2010, 02:57 AM, said:

9 tricks in spades and 10 in hearts. Pd has sp AQJTxx and diamond KTxx and another ACE I think.

If you took the push, this translates to -300 instead of +50, vs -650,
if all my wrong decision would be that cheaply, I would start winning.

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