straube, on Feb 3 2010, 01:59 AM, said:
Rodney26, on Feb 3 2010, 01:39 AM, said:
Fluffy, on Feb 2 2010, 03:06 PM, said:
3♥ is definitely strong, so hopefully yes.
I was responder and had:
♠
♥T9x
♦KQT9xx
♣Q7xx
I raised 3♥ to 4; partner took another chomp at the apple by bidding 4♠ with:
♠AKJ8xx
♥AKQ6x
♦x
♣x
If I had something like the hand below, he'd want to be in six:
♠x
♥J9xx
♦Axxx
♣xxxx
In this case, 5♥ was too high. I suggested 4m was a cuebid for hearts so I couldn't hold that hand; partner didn't think so and I was surprised that the two partnerships I queried also didn't think so, but agreed with Pavlicek's definition.
Thanks everyone for the input -- much appreciated.
There's that rule about never raising partner's second suit with fewer than four.
But if you had a weak relay (3S) available...
1S-1N, 3H-3S, 4D (6/5)-4H now partner knows you're weak at least.
Sure, I'd love to have 4 ♥ for my bid, but what else? I'll survive 3NT today only because partner is going to pull; it's not going to go so well on the days he leaves me there. If he plays in a Moysian, the hand certainly seems suitable.
I don't know why you're posting a relay solution to a SAYC, 2/1 problem in the first place. The goal is to learn what folks play 4m as in the above framework.