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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2010-January-25, 13:23

r/r MP

Qxx xx T9xx K9xx

1S 2S P 4H
4S 5H ?
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Posted 2010-January-25, 13:31

I think there are 20 total tricks so 5♠ could lose 200 (or 300 or 400 depending on what gets doubled), or it could win 420 (or 120 if we double them), or it could win 120 (or 420 if they don't double).

So I think it's close. I hope I can pass in tempo, if I can't I bid 5♠.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 13:39

I have to pass here, as I am too flat and maybe they don't make.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 13:47

Pass for me
OK
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Posted 2010-January-25, 13:51

5♠.

Good problem. Maybe both contracts are one down but a poor score could be unavoidable in that case anyway as they appear to have made the right decision and other pairs with their cards may not. It certainly looks like 5♠ will be right any time either side can make 11 tricks and that will occur fairly often. I would actually like to sit if partner doubles and bid if he passes but unfortunately don't have that option.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 14:10

Abstain. Why did I pass last round! This should be partner's problem over 5♥ not mine.

Edit: Misread auction thought it was 2♥ overcall. Ok in this case I bid 5♠.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 14:16

rogerclee, on Jan 25 2010, 02:23 PM, said:

r/r MP

Qxx xx T9xx K9xx

1S 2S P 4H
4S 5H ?

pass

I never get this right it seems but I just try to pass in these 5/5 decisions and hope they guessed wrong.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 14:40

5S. I have anywhere from zero to 1/2 [possibly 1] defensive tricks and partner has advertised an offensive hand without knowing of my support and without letting me decide what to do over 4H. I think 5S is clear.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 15:06

Wish I knew what minor RHO had lol. I would bid 5S, it just seems like a disaster to pass if RHO has diamonds.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 16:14

I guess I would 5♠ but with no particular confidence.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 16:39

I'd pass. Pard bid 4♠ under pressure and that might have been more based on hcp than spade length.
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Posted 2010-January-25, 18:06

rogerclee, on Jan 25 2010, 02:23 PM, said:

r/r MP

Qxx xx T9xx K9xx

1S 2S P 4H
4S 5H ?

Why are you deciding this now instead of directly over 2♠ when you should have made your raise to 3♠? I guess to bid 5♠ and hope the ♣K is well placed
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Posted 2010-January-25, 18:22

I pass. Agree with Nuno.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 00:16

pooltuna, on Jan 25 2010, 05:06 PM, said:

rogerclee, on Jan 25 2010, 02:23 PM, said:

r/r MP

Qxx xx T9xx K9xx

1S 2S P 4H
4S 5H ?

Why are you deciding this now instead of directly over 2♠ when you should have made your raise to 3♠? I guess to bid 5♠ and hope the ♣K is well placed

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Posted 2010-January-26, 01:09

I had passed first and would pass now. 3244 with "no" HCPS does not look like a raise to 5... Make it 3145 and I may think about it.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 02:00

5♠. I'd like to defend if rho has clubs but I don't know so I think I've got to bid. And of course partner is bidding with spade length, otherwise if he is bidding based on hcp why isn't he doubling.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 09:36

aguahombre, on Jan 26 2010, 01:16 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Jan 25 2010, 05:06 PM, said:

rogerclee, on Jan 25 2010, 02:23 PM, said:

r/r MP

Qxx xx T9xx K9xx

1S 2S P 4H
4S 5H ?

Why are you deciding this now instead of directly over 2♠ when you should have made your raise to 3♠? I guess to bid 5♠ and hope the ♣K is well placed

no

this is a pretty ambiguous response.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 11:30

"No" was ambiguous? You have a hand which would stretch to bid 2S after a 2-level overcall. It has neither the shape nor the strength to volunteer at the 3-level. Partner is supposed to have some vague clue as to what your competitive bids show.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 11:52

jdonn, on Jan 25 2010, 03:10 PM, said:

Abstain. Why did I pass last round! This should be partner's problem over 5♥ not mine.

Edit: Misread auction thought it was 2♥ overcall. Ok in this case I bid 5♠.

OK, so what would a double of the 2S bid show? Surely support?
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Posted 2010-January-26, 11:54

dealmegold, on Jan 26 2010, 12:52 PM, said:

jdonn, on Jan 25 2010, 03:10 PM, said:

Abstain. Why did I pass last round! This should be partner's problem over 5♥ not mine.

Edit: Misread auction thought it was 2♥ overcall. Ok in this case I bid 5♠.

OK, so what would a double of the 2S bid show? Surely support?

Surely interest in defending and that you might want to double them.
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