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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2010-January-22, 10:53

♠32
♥J
♦AKQ72
♣A9762

1♦-1♠
2♣-2♥ (X)
3♣-3♦

what is the correct bid now playing vanilla sayc?
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Posted 2010-January-22, 10:56

I'd just bid 4♦
OK
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Posted 2010-January-22, 11:02

Hi all,
The correct bid requires all the pertinent information to make the decision. I see only bids. You also need hesitations, inflections, expressions, and table talk for correct sayc bidding.

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Posted 2010-January-22, 11:31

I think a cuebid of 4♣ is appropriate. After all I have good trumps.
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Posted 2010-January-22, 12:04

I like 4♦. 4♣ seems to me to show better clubs once I've already shown a long suit, not just a control. If partner bids 4♦ I'll bid 4♥, or if he bids a major I'll bid 5♣ next.
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Posted 2010-January-22, 12:06

4H.

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Posted 2010-January-22, 16:15

3S to finish describing my shape, and because partner can still be 6-3 in the pointed suits pretty easily.
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Posted 2010-January-22, 17:27

If you have a clear agreement that 3♦ sets diamonds as trumps, 4♣ cuebid next. Absent discussion I would assume that diamonds are trumps and we're in a game force, but there are no "basic" sayc questions on the 4th round of the auction.

Not everyone is going to be on solid ground here. Witness the differences of opinion in this thread (for instance, unlike JLall I think partner has fairly clearly denied possession of 6 spades by bidding 3♦.)
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Posted 2010-January-23, 18:25

Jlall, on Jan 22 2010, 05:15 PM, said:

3S to finish describing my shape, and because partner can still be 6-3 in the pointed suits pretty easily.

I agree. And partner may want to play 4S in a 5-2. 3D shouldn't set trump.
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