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1♥ 2♣ 2♠ Pass
2NT
Is this forcing or nonforcing in your book? Say 2/1 in effect, now GF?
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Posted 2009-November-24, 04:57
1♥ 2♣ 2♠ Pass
2NT
Is this forcing or nonforcing in your book? Say 2/1 in effect, now GF?
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Posted 2009-November-24, 05:06
Not forcing.
After the overcall 2♠ is non-forcing 8-11 or 10+, depending on agreements.
I prefer 10+.
The 2NT is natural, minumum with stop(s).
After the overcall 2♠ is non-forcing 8-11 or 10+, depending on agreements.
I prefer 10+.
The 2NT is natural, minumum with stop(s).
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Posted 2009-November-24, 05:06
Hi Hamdi,
I think standard is non forcing but I have played it as forcing too. If it is NF then you have to rebid 3NT with this hand, no big deal, and rebid 3C if you have a big balanced hand like 18-19.
edit: I see dicklont said 2♠ is non-forcing, I do not agree, 95+% of all non-Polish experts play 2♠ as forcing 1 round.
I think standard is non forcing but I have played it as forcing too. If it is NF then you have to rebid 3NT with this hand, no big deal, and rebid 3C if you have a big balanced hand like 18-19.
edit: I see dicklont said 2♠ is non-forcing, I do not agree, 95+% of all non-Polish experts play 2♠ as forcing 1 round.
This post has been edited by gwnn: 2009-November-24, 05:08
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Posted 2009-November-24, 05:08
gwnn, on Nov 24 2009, 07:06 AM, said:
Hi Hamdi,
I think standard is non forcing but I have played it as forcing too. If it is NF then you have to rebid 3NT with this hand, no big deal, and rebid 3C if you have a big balanced hand like 18-19.
I think standard is non forcing but I have played it as forcing too. If it is NF then you have to rebid 3NT with this hand, no big deal, and rebid 3C if you have a big balanced hand like 18-19.
Hi Csaba,
Thanks
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Posted 2009-November-24, 05:15
gwnn, on Nov 24 2009, 12:06 PM, said:
edit: I see dicklont said 2♠ is non-forcing, I do not agree, 95+% of all non-Polish experts play 2♠ as forcing 1 round.
No, Dick says it is either
8-11 NF
or
10+ (i.e. obviously forcing).
In Biedermeijer which is the standard the Dutch BF has tried to get accepted, it is NF by default with F as an option. My impression is that the vast majority of Dutch tournament players play it as forcing.
Anyway, 2NT is NF for most.
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Posted 2009-November-24, 05:19
right. (very) careless reading by me. I should edit out my edit now but Helene already quoted it.
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Posted 2009-November-24, 05:32
IF 2 ♠ was nonforcing, 2 NT surely is nonforcing too.
If 2 ♠ was invitational + (10+) it is nonforcing.
If 2 ♠ was invitational + (10+) it is nonforcing.
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Posted 2009-November-24, 05:57
Not forcing.
Depends of course on the menaing of 2S, some / maybe the
majority playes 2S as 1 round force, i.e. 2S does not even
promise a 2nd bid, playing this style you need to be able to
bid 12-14, without going overboard.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Depends of course on the menaing of 2S, some / maybe the
majority playes 2S as 1 round force, i.e. 2S does not even
promise a 2nd bid, playing this style you need to be able to
bid 12-14, without going overboard.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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