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well we got lucky with out teammates who got a +590 but it really should have been a doubled double game swing because almost everybody in the field was playing 4♠x=.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 03:42
just a little ATB for a change.
well we got lucky with out teammates who got a +590 but it really should have been a doubled double game swing because almost everybody in the field was playing 4♠x=.
well we got lucky with out teammates who got a +590 but it really should have been a doubled double game swing because almost everybody in the field was playing 4♠x=.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 07:50
Just a guess, but maybe South?
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Posted 2009-November-15, 10:26
kenrexford, on Nov 15 2009, 08:50 AM, said:
Just a guess, but maybe South?
actually I think it is both instead of bidding 3♠ South could have called 4♠ and I think North's double of 4♥ is risky in front of what could be a 7 card suit.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 10:27
South must have thought he showed his hand to partner. That was wrong. defending 4 ♥ with the south hand looks masochistic to me.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 10:29
It looks like south didnt want to hog 4♠ all by himself after 4♥. You always learn to dont do that but on this hand dont be surprised if it is wrong.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 10:31
Opener could warn partner:
1♠-1NT-p-2♦!
3♥! = self splinter w/extra ♠ length
Of course it also warns the opposition.
1♠-1NT-p-2♦!
3♥! = self splinter w/extra ♠ length
Of course it also warns the opposition.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 11:32
I don't think N should dbl 4♥, although it's understandable.
South bidding is ok IMHO. I don't like a self-splinter, it's too big an advantage for LHO being able to double (or not) 3♥.
I would probably have bid 4♠ myself but 3♠ is fine.
South bidding is ok IMHO. I don't like a self-splinter, it's too big an advantage for LHO being able to double (or not) 3♥.
I would probably have bid 4♠ myself but 3♠ is fine.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 11:53
4s, instead of 3S would show just about this hand in our style --after 1S opening and no help from pard. Not a Namyats 4D opening because this 8-trick hand is composed of 2 real o/s tricks. The big advantage is making it harder for pard to double 4H 
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Posted 2009-November-15, 16:09
I'm sure south would normally bid 4S but hated his xxx in diamonds. Meh, it is conservative but probably reasonable (when I think of hands that will pass 3S few make game on a diamond lead etc), but after they bid 4H south has to bid 4S I think, not that bidding like this is very conventional lol.
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Posted 2009-November-15, 19:50
I might also have opened 4♠, or 4♦ NAMYATS, or even 2♣.
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Posted 2009-November-16, 05:40
I won't blame anyone..
I would surely pass 4 Heart as south, I have two defensive tricks, I would bet on a spade ruff and/or some other tricks in partners hand.
I would double or pass with the North hand, no big difference.
So maybe we should talk about a direct 4 Spade (or a namyats 4 Diamond) opening or a 4 spade bid after 2 Diamond. Sorry this would not show this hand for me.
I would surely pass 4 Heart as south, I have two defensive tricks, I would bet on a spade ruff and/or some other tricks in partners hand.
I would double or pass with the North hand, no big difference.
So maybe we should talk about a direct 4 Spade (or a namyats 4 Diamond) opening or a 4 spade bid after 2 Diamond. Sorry this would not show this hand for me.
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1♠-1NT-p-2♦
3♠-p-p-4♥
p-p-x-end
which is a double doubled game swing