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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2009-November-01, 01:17

Scoring: IMP

2-dbl-4-??

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Posted 2009-November-01, 01:31

4NT
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Posted 2009-November-01, 01:38

Double, don't like 4NT at all with this balanced 10 count.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2009-November-01, 01:47

double
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Posted 2009-November-01, 04:29

X, penalty.

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Posted 2009-November-01, 04:36

double. not penalty.
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Posted 2009-November-01, 05:53

Double so easy must be wrong.
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Posted 2009-November-01, 06:55

cnszsun, on Nov 1 2009, 02:17 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

2-dbl-4-??

X, DSIP
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Posted 2009-November-01, 07:00

DBL. This is not over, pard may pull with a very distributional hand (unlikely).
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Posted 2009-November-01, 10:01

Finally, a problem to which there is only one answer: Dbl. Partner is allowed to pull if he thinks we have slam.
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Posted 2009-November-01, 11:27

If I were to write down a minimum double in this auction, it would look like this.
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Posted 2009-November-01, 12:28

Phil, on Nov 1 2009, 12:27 PM, said:

If I were to write down a perfect double in this auction, it would look like this.

FYP!
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Posted 2009-November-01, 12:32

Double, and my second choice by a mile is pass not 4NT. Better to take a small plus instead of a large minus!
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Posted 2009-November-01, 20:25

I would have thought this was a clearcut responsive double hand??
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Posted 2009-November-02, 14:24

Double for me too.
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Posted 2009-November-03, 04:02

I'm surprised at some of the comments about what partner needs to take out this double. He should bid if he wants to play at the five-level opposite a working 2(344) 10-count. At this vulnerability that means most of the time that he has a small singleton spade and a non-minimum.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-November-03, 16:17

I disagree Gnasher, I think he should pass with pretty much every 1444 hand type unless he can force to slam. There is always some risk of going down no matter how strong you are, and the stronger you are the more you rate to beat them anyways. There is no hand I can think of where I'm thinking "I'm only going to beat them 300, but I will make game almost always" with that shape.
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Posted 2009-November-04, 10:59

I agree that you should usually pass out the double with a 4441 shape. A non-minimum 5431 should usually bid, though.

I was going to follow that by saying that 4441s form a small proportion of the hands with a singleton, but in fact 4441s comprise about 20-25% of the hands that would make a takeout double. So yes, "most of the time" was an overstatement.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-November-04, 11:06

gnasher, on Nov 4 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

I agree that you should usually pass out the double with a 4441 shape. A non-minimum 5431 should usually bid, though.

I was going to follow that by saying that 4441s form a small proportion of the hands with a singleton, but in fact 4441s comprise about 20-25% of the hands that would make a takeout double. So yes, "most of the time" was an overstatement.

I think this is a record. You are taking back "most of the time" because it is only 75-80% of the time. Very much unlike BBF :D
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Posted 2009-November-04, 21:41

cherdanno, on Nov 4 2009, 12:06 PM, said:

gnasher, on Nov 4 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

I agree that you should usually pass out the double with a 4441 shape.  A non-minimum 5431 should usually bid, though.

I was going to follow that by saying that 4441s form a small proportion of the hands with a singleton, but in fact 4441s comprise about 20-25% of the hands that would make a takeout double.  So yes, "most of the time" was an overstatement.

I think this is a record. You are taking back "most of the time" because it is only 75-80% of the time. Very much unlike BBF :)

Not really, he doesnt say to pull with all non minimum 5431s (which I agree with). If he passes with 20 % of those hands, and 100 % of 4441s that is adding up :)
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