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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2009-September-30, 13:50

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);
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What's the gameplan?
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Posted 2009-September-30, 16:56

Maybe double, then if pard bids a spade, bid 2♦ to say I was just checking if you had a trap pass. He won't say 2♠ or else he would have been good enough to bid 1♠ the first time.
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Posted 2009-September-30, 17:51

Double and then clubs over spades. When partner bids diamonds I'll raise that.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-September-30, 18:08

Echognome, on Sep 30 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);
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What's the gameplan?

WHACK!!! to be followed by a ♣ bid over 1 or 2♠
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Posted 2009-September-30, 21:08

Echognome, on Sep 30 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);
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What's the gameplan?

1) I will start with x
2) my best guess is pard will pull and i will rebid something.
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Posted 2009-October-01, 00:52

I do not dream of a penalty pass from partner, but my hand is too strong for 2 club and has the wrong shape for 3 of a minor.

So I join the X then clubs crowd.
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Posted 2009-October-01, 01:50

yep, double
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Posted 2009-October-01, 03:03

Maybe you should post low level decisions in the B/I forum. :)

I would double, planning to bid clubs next.
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Posted 2009-October-01, 07:47

Double. We can still have game on if partner had the awkward hand that had no spades or a heart stopper. In that case the opponents will have some spades but then we must have a fit or two in the minors. With this decent hand it'd be unlucky if this balances the opponents to a making 4♠ but RHO's silence over his partner's 1♥ should preclude that.
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Posted 2009-October-01, 08:43

Does double followed by 2♣ show extra values, or might it just be a 2254/2155 13-count, catering for partner's penalty pass?
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Posted 2009-October-01, 08:45

gnasher, on Oct 1 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

Does double followed by 2♣ show extra values, or might it just be a 2254/2155 13-count, catering for partner's penalty pass?

We had a similar thread on this subject a few years ago. I thought it showed an offshape minimum double, but I was outvoted.
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Posted 2009-October-01, 09:05

I think it shows extra strength, you just live with your offshape doubles at the 1 level.
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Posted 2009-October-01, 09:14

andy_h, on Oct 1 2009, 08:47 AM, said:

Double. We can still have game on if partner had the awkward hand that had no spades or a heart stopper. In that case the opponents will have some spades but then we must have a fit or two in the minors. With this decent hand it'd be unlucky if this balances the opponents to a making 4♠ but RHO's silence over his partner's 1♥ should preclude that.

excellent, unless a neg double would have denied spades--in which case game is remote. However, RHO's silence does increase the possibility of a trap by partner.
Double is still the answer. Remembering another tread, could partner have J-ninth of spades and out?
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Posted 2009-October-01, 09:15

Phil, on Oct 1 2009, 09:45 AM, said:

gnasher, on Oct 1 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

Does double followed by 2♣ show extra values, or might it just be a 2254/2155 13-count, catering for partner's penalty pass?

We had a similar thread on this subject a few years ago. I thought it showed an offshape minimum double, but I was outvoted.

Who makes offshape takeout doubles at the 1 level on minimum hands? 1♦ 1♥ p p you are doubling on a minimum 1264?!
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Posted 2009-October-02, 05:24

Echognome, on Sep 30 2009, 02:50 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P);
?What's the gameplan?
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Posted 2009-October-02, 07:51

jdonn, on Oct 1 2009, 10:15 AM, said:

Who makes offshape takeout doubles at the 1 level on minimum hands? 1♦ 1♥ p p you are doubling on a minimum 1264?!

I think the pattern might have been 5422 with a 2♣ overcall on your left. The question was "does pulling 2♦ to 2♥ implies extras?".

I suppose you could switch the suits to 2542 (1♠ overcall), or 2254, or even 4225.
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Posted 2009-October-02, 09:00

IMO you have to leave partner in your doubleton if you double on those and he bids it, but ok now I understand.
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Posted 2009-October-02, 11:00

I'd just bid 2♣ here.

If partner has a trap pass then opponents have a huge spade fit, and they will likely find it if I double. I'm much more concerned that partner has a bad hand with a lot of spades and will jump opposite my double (say JTxxxx of spades and out, which might make game opposite a good 4144 hand but is awful opposite my real hand).
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