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What does 2 hearts mean in this auction?

Poll: What does 2 hearts mean in this auction? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

What does 2 hearts mean in this auction?

  1. This is natural, a reverse showing a strong hand. (24 votes [88.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.89%

  2. This is natural, just showing 4+ hearts. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. This is natural, trying to expose a psych by the doubler. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. This is a strong Spade raise. (1 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  5. This is not clear, but forcing for at least one round. (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  6. This is a low level Western cue bid. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Bridge_Bain 

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Posted 2009-August-14, 04:38

Both sides are white.
West is the dealer.
The bidding goes:

W   N   E   S
P   1♦   P   1♠
D   2♥   --   --
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Posted 2009-August-14, 05:13

It is natural, but obviously the posibility of a fake reverse with 3(2) cards and strogn diamonds looking for 3NT has increased chances than if there was no double.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 05:39

Natural.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 05:49

Strong natural reverse. Should be unanimous, but given its BBO forums...
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Posted 2009-August-14, 05:51

effervesce, on Aug 14 2009, 04:49 AM, said:

Strong natural reverse. Should be unanimous, but given its BBO forums...

ditto but just wait for Rexfords response :)
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Posted 2009-August-14, 05:59

Given the DBL by a passed hand, I'd just say it's forcing for now.... and says nada about Hts.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 06:59

strong, "natural" (might be 3 looking for 3NT)
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Posted 2009-August-14, 08:01

natural, reverse.

In the future, please use X to signify double when listing an auction and not "D". Thx.
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 08:55

It's a reverse, same as if there was no double.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 08:59

bid_em_up, on Aug 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

In the future, please use X to signify double when listing an auction and not "D". Thx.

Why?
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Posted 2009-August-14, 09:04

gnasher, on Aug 14 2009, 09:59 AM, said:

bid_em_up, on Aug 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

In the future, please use X to signify double when listing an auction and not "D".  Thx.

Why?

Why not?
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Posted 2009-August-14, 09:10

gnasher, on Aug 14 2009, 09:59 AM, said:

bid_em_up, on Aug 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

In the future, please use X to signify double when listing an auction and not "D".  Thx.

Why?

Because I hate the letter "D". :lol:
Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
So many experts, not enough X cards.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 09:11

gnasher, on Aug 14 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

bid_em_up, on Aug 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

In the future, please use X to signify double when listing an auction and not "D".  Thx.

Why?

The "D" could be misinterpreted as a bid of 0♦, accepted by next hands 2♥ bid.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 11:00

Natural.

GIB probably plays this as a cue.
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Posted 2009-August-14, 11:09

D looks too much like P I think. I guess it's just because my glasses aren't strong enough.

Now for something different :)

over
1x-p-1y-x

XX=penalty oriented. could be 18-19 balanced. denies 3 card support
1NT=3 card support, limited
2z(reverse)=3 card support, unlimited
2y=4 card support
3y=4 card support, shape
2NT=4 card support, points

something along these lines, I believe, is superior than just 'system on'

edit: D looks like P, not X as I wrote initially
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Posted 2009-August-14, 18:49

OleBerg, on Aug 14 2009, 05:11 PM, said:

gnasher, on Aug 14 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

bid_em_up, on Aug 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

In the future, please use X to signify double when listing an auction and not "D".  Thx.

Why?

The "D" could be misinterpreted as a bid of 0♦, accepted by next hands 2♥ bid.

I would have thought D = 1D = 1♦, just like in the good old math days...
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Posted 2009-August-15, 00:21

MFA, on Aug 15 2009, 02:49 AM, said:

OleBerg, on Aug 14 2009, 05:11 PM, said:

gnasher, on Aug 14 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

bid_em_up, on Aug 14 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

In the future, please use X to signify double when listing an auction and not "D".  Thx.

Why?

The "D" could be misinterpreted as a bid of 0♦, accepted by next hands 2♥ bid.

I would have thought D = 1D = 1♦, just like in the good old math days...

Please don't use four letter words. (Like math.)
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Posted 2009-August-15, 08:39

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Please don't use four letter words. (Like math.)


Which one, like or math? :lol:
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Posted 2009-August-15, 12:35

1) this should deny three spades if playing support rdbl 2) this shows a strong hand but may be "phony" with good long diamonds 3) this COULD be four-card spade raise, bidding around the short club, not conducive to "splinter"; perhaps Kxxx - AQx - AQxxx- x.
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Posted 2009-August-15, 13:45

H-fragment hoping 3N, mainly.
May advance cue for S or D-SS if big next bid - not simple preference suggesting scramble.
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